engine swapping ideas, i have a 96 celica GT 2.2 liter........... |
engine swapping ideas, i have a 96 celica GT 2.2 liter........... |
Jun 5, 2008 - 8:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '08 From Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
what would you guys recommend me swapping out for something that will get better gas mileage and more ponies?
and if i need to import some thing that is always an option for me:D pls message me -Bryce |
Jun 6, 2008 - 2:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, you can swap the 3sgte alot easier than if you had an ST. However its a 2.0L turbo and it wont give you better gas mileage. In fact it will be significantly worse. But with proper tuning you can easily have 300whp.
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Jun 8, 2008 - 3:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '08 From Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, you can swap the 3sgte alot easier than if you had an ST. However its a 2.0L turbo and it wont give you better gas mileage. In fact it will be significantly worse. But with proper tuning you can easily have 300whp. is there a web link you can direct me to or anything so i can order one? |
Jun 8, 2008 - 7:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
You've got to do some research my friend. You already want to order one, yet you probbaly don't know much about the 3sgte. Its good you have a GT because the 3s will be a direct swap. The problem is, you will have a motor that will be making over 50% more power than your factory motor. Will gas mileage be better? No. If gas mileage is your concern don't do the swap. If all you want is power go for it. But do some research before you splurge all this money and regret it at the end.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Jun 8, 2008 - 9:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '08 From missouri Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sorry to be off topic a little but my front clip or " complete swap " is on its way here idc for the gas mileage just wondering what it is like ?
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Jun 8, 2008 - 9:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I think lagos reported around 19 mpg before. But after some mods he is getting 23 IIRC.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Jun 8, 2008 - 10:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '08 From Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You've got to do some research my friend. You already want to order one, yet you probbaly don't know much about the 3sgte. Its good you have a GT because the 3s will be a direct swap. The problem is, you will have a motor that will be making over 50% more power than your factory motor. Will gas mileage be better? No. If gas mileage is your concern don't do the swap. If all you want is power go for it. But do some research before you splurge all this money and regret it at the end. well i have done a bit of research i talked to a buddy of mine about it and he said that your right it is pretty much a direct swap, but this is ganna be my project car so idc about mileage anymore, (just bought an '06 civic) but he also said something about upgrading my motor mounts which im sure is true. but thank you for your reply its much appropriated. |
Jun 8, 2008 - 10:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Since you have a GT you won't really need to upgrade your mounts. You should just purchase some kirkasaurous motor mount inserts. They are polyurethane inserts. Works pretty well for me. Since its a project car, I say its the best thing you can do to a Celica. I am in the process of a 3s swap myself and I am just waiting on my wiring harness.
This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Jun 8, 2008 - 10:32 PM -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Jun 8, 2008 - 10:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 21, '07 From I-59 -N- 610 Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, you can swap the 3sgte alot easier than if you had an ST. However its a 2.0L turbo and it wont give you better gas mileage. In fact it will be significantly worse. But with proper tuning you can easily have 300whp. like terqui stated , a 3sgte is a easier swap into a gt than an st.... your gt's tranny allreaddy bolts right up, motor mounts are there too.... st u need to do alot more wqork, so ur set on that part, id suggest reading this thread to get more information..... http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 compared to alot of the 3s swaps done in this forum, if your looking to just get a lil more ponys and keep gas milage, ur 3s would be alot easier, as most are for performance... if not looking to go as powerful as a 3s than a 4a would work, just a slightly harder swap... if your having someone else do it, a 4agze would be great! This post has been edited by monkey: Jun 8, 2008 - 10:36 PM |
Jun 9, 2008 - 6:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '08 From Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Since you have a GT you won't really need to upgrade your mounts. You should just purchase some kirkasaurous motor mount inserts. They are polyurethane inserts. Works pretty well for me. Since its a project car, I say its the best thing you can do to a Celica. I am in the process of a 3s swap myself and I am just waiting on my wiring harness. so ive been doing some more research and i heard about some company called burien making and 5sfe turbo kit, would that be an even better choice that swapping for an already turbo 3s? but ive heard also alot of controversial thoughts about this subject, i just wanna get all my facts straight before i jump into this. -Bryce |
Jun 9, 2008 - 6:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '03 From New Orleans Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
burien makes a 5sfe kit? Hmmm back when I had a corolla they had a 4afe/7afe kits and a few guys on vvti.net had it and had good results w/ that kit. Thats like 01. So they been making them for awhile
This post has been edited by chucho: Jun 9, 2008 - 6:18 PM |
Jun 11, 2008 - 7:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 14, '06 From MN, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
It's cheaper and better to make your own kit using toyota parts. Thats where the 5SFTE post comes in.
The Burien kit is CRAP, plus doesn't have everything you need. Compared to years ago the 5SFE motor has come a long ways. Look up Pressure2's post the 5SFTE King. |
Jun 13, 2008 - 7:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '08 From Manchester,N.H Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
have you heard of www.VoloPerformance.com is a great web site you want to save gas or gain some extra horses go there. this chip really works my friend bought it for his car so i bought mine and i'm just waiting for it he gain over 15 hp but it actually advertise 25 but it's worth the money 75 dollars is better that a jet chip that cost over 300.
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