Completed: Suspension issue, Page 3 finished update / Tons of pics |
Completed: Suspension issue, Page 3 finished update / Tons of pics |
Jun 6, 2008 - 12:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I dont think this is an install problem. Its probably just the way the blistine/tein combo is.
As far as you bottoming out, you have to remember that you have a much bigger motor in there now. You went from a small 4cly to a much bigger 6cly. Thats going to change your ride height a lot. I remember one of the first things I noticed after doing my swap is how much lower the car sat in the front. Also keep in mind that a lowered car, plus a heavier motor, is going to mean that you end up blowing the shocks more often. It might be possible that the shocks are already shot after such a short period of time from the added weight and lowering. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Jun 6, 2008 - 12:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
i had the bilstein/sprint combo, i didnt blow one til i ran into a 4" curb like construction street, no signs or warning so whammo, blown strut..maybe change the front springs to eibachs. or give it some time.
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Jun 6, 2008 - 12:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i had the bilstein/sprint combo, i didnt blow one til i ran into a 4" curb like construction street, no signs or warning so whammo, blown strut..maybe change the front springs to eibachs. or give it some time. Keep in mind that you also have a much lighter motor then he does. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Jun 6, 2008 - 1:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '07 From Fort Worth, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
Given the extra weight of the car in the front, wouldn't it be better for him to just upgrade to coilovers?
-Matt This post has been edited by GotToyota: Jun 6, 2008 - 1:15 PM |
Jun 6, 2008 - 1:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
Snapshotgt - I have that same combo on mine [Not sure how old the setup is tho]. Tell me next time you are coming down 290 - I'll see if I'm headed to Brenham and we can meet up [I go there fairly often].
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Jun 6, 2008 - 2:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
bilsteins are very stiff compared to kyb's, i don't think the extra weight will affect the bounciness.
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Jun 7, 2008 - 7:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
struts are blown/worn.
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Jun 7, 2008 - 10:48 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
As far as you bottoming out, you have to remember that you have a much bigger motor in there now. You went from a small 4cly to a much bigger 6cly. Thats going to change your ride height a lot. I remember one of the first things I noticed after doing my swap is how much lower the car sat in the front. Any suggestions on another brad "lowering" spring that would not give as much, thus note be as low? Also keep in mind that a lowered car, plus a heavier motor, is going to mean that you end up blowing the shocks more often. It might be possible that the shocks are already shot after such a short period of time from the added weight and lowering. The suspension was like this from day one... -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
Current: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor |
Jun 7, 2008 - 11:58 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
eibach prokit 1in drop, or coilovers.
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Jun 7, 2008 - 12:11 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 13, '06 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Definitely a problem with the shocks, not the springs. They are just not absorbing the bounce at all. That's what happens when your shocks are completely worn out.
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Jun 7, 2008 - 4:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
take the assembly out and find out for us.
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Jun 7, 2008 - 5:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '05 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
to me it just looks like the extra weight of the new motor blew the shocks. The amount of weight that the v6 has over the stock 5s would definatly weigh down the front end and. Maybe u need somethin more heavy duty then GR2s or the bilsteins. Maybe go with a set of SS coil overs or somethin. They are usually pretty heavy duty shocks for the coil overs.
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Jun 7, 2008 - 6:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I'll buy the springs from ya if you wanna buy another brand
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Jun 8, 2008 - 4:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 24, '07 From Oahu, Hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
i got a vid for you. its me after droppin in the new shocks......
im gonna go full coils later so i bought monroe's i'll post the vid of me going over a speed bump if it helps... although i didnt bounce as much. -------------------- I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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Jun 9, 2008 - 9:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 2, '08 From ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Make sure you bolted the sway bar ball joints up, If so maybe try an even bigger sway bar. Rember if one side isnt hooked up it will affect the other side. By the way you were luckt to have boots left after i lowered mine they came out in pieces.
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Jun 20, 2008 - 1:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Here is what i'm doing:
1.) Replacing front bilsteins with new ones (found a good deal, trying them once more) 2.) Getting bump stops 3.) Getting TRD or eibach 1" drop lowering springs (selling teins - too low for my application) I have not ordered the springs or bump stops yet, so i'll probably not get to this for another week or two. -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
Current: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor |
Jun 20, 2008 - 1:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Good plan.
I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Sportlines/teins are too low for my taste, especially with a heavier motor in the front. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Jun 20, 2008 - 1:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 10, '04 From Shoreline, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
how about bying a set of front shocks ment for the v6 camry, leave the backs the same. not sure if there the same or not but would not be hard to tell, if you can get cartrage style for the camary your good.
QUOTE High performance shock absorber for TOYOTA camry Front-right. KYB no. 334246. OEM no. 48510-39486. looks pretty close/identical worth looking into I think. Toyota Nation Forum [quote]in looking at Tokico Blue (HP), they don't seem to sell a full shock for '93, just a cartridge. I believe that simply changes the inners of the OEM shock, correct[\quote] This post has been edited by creis: Jun 20, 2008 - 2:04 PM -------------------- |
Jun 20, 2008 - 4:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Here is what i'm doing: 1.) Replacing front bilsteins with new ones (found a good deal, trying them once more) 2.) Getting bump stops 3.) Getting TRD or eibach 1" drop lowering springs (selling teins - too low for my application) I have not ordered the springs or bump stops yet, so i'll probably not get to this for another week or two. My recommendation: dollar up to the Koni yellows. Stock or stock replacement struts are not meant to be used with ANY lowering spring. Alot of us have done it with good results - at first. But then, the struts wear relatively quickly and we are in the same boat. Frankly, if you keep your teins and buy Koni's, it won't be THAT much more expensive. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
Jun 25, 2008 - 9:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Got the bilsteins. I'm concerned though because i can push the shaft all-the-way into the insert. It releases slowly (good). But, i'm worried how easy it is to compress with my bare strength - let alone a car.
My recommendation: dollar up to the Koni yellows. Stock or stock replacement struts are not meant to be used with ANY lowering spring. Alot of us have done it with good results - at first. But then, the struts wear relatively quickly and we are in the same boat. Frankly, if you keep your teins and buy Koni's, it won't be THAT much more expensive. Koni's are pretty near a price of some coilovers ($900ish). Am i wrong? ~ $700ish? I like the aggressive look of the teins, but with my crossmember being so low, its almost dangerous. I've bottomed out on speed bumps ect, in fact, 2 bolts down there are slightly bent because i drove unknowingly over one of those manhole filler ports at a gas station. I'm looking at some TRDs with "less" of a drop - or else back to ugly stock springs. -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
Current: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor |
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