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> My Emanage Ultimate experience, 5sfte + emanage ultimate = ??? lets find out!
post Jul 6, 2008 - 3:52 AM
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Sup man,

This is off topic (for my benz) ...

Can I do ALL of the following with the e-manage:

Use one analog in/out to clamp my map sensor voltage to raise my stock boost control from 6 to 11psi
Use the airflow correction map to clamp it at 163 g/s (190hp) to prevent the ECU from limping when it sees more than 190hp worth of air
Use the Injector correction to add the needed fuel that the ECU isn't adding (because i had clamped the MAS voltage to prevent it from freaking out).

Using TWO additional analog in/out signals to modify my TPS signal and my backup TPS signal (drive by wire)... which will reduce throttle lag
Use one switched digital output so that I can take control over my boost bleed air injection system so that I can hold all my boost in when i go WOT rather than have it bled into the cat to keep emissions down.

Do all of this without touching my ignition setup (very complex COP) and keeping timing / ignition control with the ECU
Do all this while taking the Emanage RPM input from any of my 4 coils (as there is no dizzy or rpm pulse that i could tap into)
Do all of this while using my MAP as my TPS input (so the E-manage knows when the car is shifting (boost drops to 0 and then builds again) even when i'm 100% floored ) (automatic transmission) (possibly using the manual min/max settings for the TPS)

How does the additional injection pulse width feature work, do you CUT the injector wires or do you just tap into them like the EM-Blue ?
If you cut them totally ? do you think it will trigger a CEL on OBD-2 ?

Thanks man...




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To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi
post Jul 6, 2008 - 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (NuclearHappineS @ Jul 6, 2008 - 4:52 AM) *
Sup man,

This is off topic (for my benz) ...

Can I do ALL of the following with the e-manage:

Use one analog in/out to clamp my map sensor voltage to raise my stock boost control from 6 to 11psi
Use the airflow correction map to clamp it at 163 g/s (190hp) to prevent the ECU from limping when it sees more than 190hp worth of air
Use the Injector correction to add the needed fuel that the ECU isn't adding (because i had clamped the MAS voltage to prevent it from freaking out).

Using TWO additional analog in/out signals to modify my TPS signal and my backup TPS signal (drive by wire)... which will reduce throttle lag
Use one switched digital output so that I can take control over my boost bleed air injection system so that I can hold all my boost in when i go WOT rather than have it bled into the cat to keep emissions down.

Do all of this without touching my ignition setup (very complex COP) and keeping timing / ignition control with the ECU
Do all this while taking the Emanage RPM input from any of my 4 coils (as there is no dizzy or rpm pulse that i could tap into)
Do all of this while using my MAP as my TPS input (so the E-manage knows when the car is shifting (boost drops to 0 and then builds again) even when i'm 100% floored ) (automatic transmission) (possibly using the manual min/max settings for the TPS)

How does the additional injection pulse width feature work, do you CUT the injector wires or do you just tap into them like the EM-Blue ?
If you cut them totally ? do you think it will trigger a CEL on OBD-2 ?

Thanks man...

ok lets see.
yes for sure for the first 3. the next 3 i "think" it can do, you'd have to research the manuals yourself for those.
yes to not touching the IG side.
it itercepts the injector outputs. ( cut wires) i have read of a few issues with triggering the CEL, but there has been updates and such to help correct the problems people were having early on.
'specially with the benz nuke, i would think the redundant systems would catch on, but who knows unless you try!
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post Jul 6, 2008 - 2:21 PM
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So I did some reading ...

** Use one analog in/out to clamp my map sensor voltage to raise my stock boost control from 6 to 11psi
+ YES

** Use the airflow correction map to clamp it at 163 g/s (190hp) to prevent the ECU from limping when it sees more than 190hp worth of air
+ YES or Just use the Boost Cut Limiter setting to clamp the MAS Voltage

** Use the Injector correction to add the needed fuel that the ECU isn't adding (because i had clamped the MAS voltage to prevent it from freaking out).
+ YES

** Using TWO additional analog in/out signals to modify my TPS signal and my backup TPS signal (drive by wire)... which will reduce throttle lag
+ NO (It only has 2 analog in/outs , one is used for MAS and one is used for MAP so i'm out of inputs)

** Use one switched digital output so that I can take control over my boost bleed air injection system so that I can hold all my boost in when i go WOT rather than have it bled into the cat to keep emissions down.
+ YES - I can either do this through the Vtec interface and the Auxilliary output setting map or using the NVCS/Relay channel depending on weather I need to supply +12v or 0v to the solenoid.

Do all of this without touching my ignition setup (very complex COP) and keeping timing / ignition control with the ECU
+ YES

Do all this while taking the Emanage RPM input from any of my 4 coils (as there is no dizzy or rpm pulse that i could tap into)
+ YES requires jumper setting and choosing the right rpm type

Do all of this while using my MAP as my TPS input (so the E-manage knows when the car is shifting (boost drops to 0 and then builds again) even when i'm 100% floored ) (automatic transmission) (possibly using the manual min/max settings for the TPS)
+Yes , just wire the MAP to both analog input 2 and the TPS input

How does the additional injection pulse width feature work, do you CUT the injector wires or do you just tap into them like the EM-Blue ?
If you cut them totally ? do you think it will trigger a CEL on OBD-2 ?
+You cut them totally... and rewire hte emanage to your injectors,
Some cars do throw a CEL (including 98+ 3000GT's) and greddy has created an extra wiring pack to simulate injectors ... I'm attaching it for info ... actually i can't attach on here ?

Anyway, you can buy it from greddy for 50 bux... it solves the CEL problem ...

I'm gonna look around, maybe there's another device that has more analog I/O's where i can do it all ...


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To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi
post Jul 9, 2008 - 1:28 AM
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nice manny.. what kind of harness kit are you using and what car is it for? do you have a full step to step installation guide for that ultimate wire to the 5sfe ecu? im all the way over in Australia and i plan to buy the greddy ultimate to tune my 5sfte to. if you can supply me with one it will be great. smile.gif
post Jul 9, 2008 - 10:33 AM
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only harness maker i know of...

http://www.boomslang.us/ultimate.htm

but pretty much you have to wire it yourself ... it's not hard especially if you have the ECU pin outs for your car.. it may take you only 2-3 hours to do the whole thing...



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To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi
post Jul 10, 2008 - 4:29 PM
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QUOTE (NuclearHappineS @ Jul 9, 2008 - 9:33 AM) *
only harness maker i know of...

http://www.boomslang.us/ultimate.htm

but pretty much you have to wire it yourself ... it's not hard especially if you have the ECU pin outs for your car.. it may take you only 2-3 hours to do the whole thing...


Don't really think the Boomslang would work since they don't have our cars listed. Possibly get a custom harness made up from them, but probably easiest to just wire it yourself.


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post Jul 10, 2008 - 8:46 PM
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could u use the mr2 one?


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post Jul 17, 2008 - 1:41 AM
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was the hardness kit for a 3sge or is it a universal one?
post Jul 23, 2008 - 2:08 AM
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post Jul 23, 2008 - 2:09 AM
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universal.


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