My Emanage Ultimate experience, 5sfte + emanage ultimate = ??? lets find out! |
My Emanage Ultimate experience, 5sfte + emanage ultimate = ??? lets find out! |
Jul 6, 2008 - 3:52 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 17, '04 From St Louis, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sup man,
This is off topic (for my benz) ... Can I do ALL of the following with the e-manage: Use one analog in/out to clamp my map sensor voltage to raise my stock boost control from 6 to 11psi Use the airflow correction map to clamp it at 163 g/s (190hp) to prevent the ECU from limping when it sees more than 190hp worth of air Use the Injector correction to add the needed fuel that the ECU isn't adding (because i had clamped the MAS voltage to prevent it from freaking out). Using TWO additional analog in/out signals to modify my TPS signal and my backup TPS signal (drive by wire)... which will reduce throttle lag Use one switched digital output so that I can take control over my boost bleed air injection system so that I can hold all my boost in when i go WOT rather than have it bled into the cat to keep emissions down. Do all of this without touching my ignition setup (very complex COP) and keeping timing / ignition control with the ECU Do all this while taking the Emanage RPM input from any of my 4 coils (as there is no dizzy or rpm pulse that i could tap into) Do all of this while using my MAP as my TPS input (so the E-manage knows when the car is shifting (boost drops to 0 and then builds again) even when i'm 100% floored ) (automatic transmission) (possibly using the manual min/max settings for the TPS) How does the additional injection pulse width feature work, do you CUT the injector wires or do you just tap into them like the EM-Blue ? If you cut them totally ? do you think it will trigger a CEL on OBD-2 ? Thanks man... -------------------- 2005 MB C200 Kompressor- K&N, Apexi WS2 Catback, DIY Voltage stabilizer, Intrax Springs, H&R RR swaybar, VDO Boost Gauge @ 6psi, Greddy L7 plugs, +0 Rear tires
To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi |
Jul 6, 2008 - 11:24 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
Sup man, This is off topic (for my benz) ... Can I do ALL of the following with the e-manage: Use one analog in/out to clamp my map sensor voltage to raise my stock boost control from 6 to 11psi Use the airflow correction map to clamp it at 163 g/s (190hp) to prevent the ECU from limping when it sees more than 190hp worth of air Use the Injector correction to add the needed fuel that the ECU isn't adding (because i had clamped the MAS voltage to prevent it from freaking out). Using TWO additional analog in/out signals to modify my TPS signal and my backup TPS signal (drive by wire)... which will reduce throttle lag Use one switched digital output so that I can take control over my boost bleed air injection system so that I can hold all my boost in when i go WOT rather than have it bled into the cat to keep emissions down. Do all of this without touching my ignition setup (very complex COP) and keeping timing / ignition control with the ECU Do all this while taking the Emanage RPM input from any of my 4 coils (as there is no dizzy or rpm pulse that i could tap into) Do all of this while using my MAP as my TPS input (so the E-manage knows when the car is shifting (boost drops to 0 and then builds again) even when i'm 100% floored ) (automatic transmission) (possibly using the manual min/max settings for the TPS) How does the additional injection pulse width feature work, do you CUT the injector wires or do you just tap into them like the EM-Blue ? If you cut them totally ? do you think it will trigger a CEL on OBD-2 ? Thanks man... ok lets see. yes for sure for the first 3. the next 3 i "think" it can do, you'd have to research the manuals yourself for those. yes to not touching the IG side. it itercepts the injector outputs. ( cut wires) i have read of a few issues with triggering the CEL, but there has been updates and such to help correct the problems people were having early on. 'specially with the benz nuke, i would think the redundant systems would catch on, but who knows unless you try! -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jul 6, 2008 - 2:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 17, '04 From St Louis, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So I did some reading ...
** Use one analog in/out to clamp my map sensor voltage to raise my stock boost control from 6 to 11psi + YES ** Use the airflow correction map to clamp it at 163 g/s (190hp) to prevent the ECU from limping when it sees more than 190hp worth of air + YES or Just use the Boost Cut Limiter setting to clamp the MAS Voltage ** Use the Injector correction to add the needed fuel that the ECU isn't adding (because i had clamped the MAS voltage to prevent it from freaking out). + YES ** Using TWO additional analog in/out signals to modify my TPS signal and my backup TPS signal (drive by wire)... which will reduce throttle lag + NO (It only has 2 analog in/outs , one is used for MAS and one is used for MAP so i'm out of inputs) ** Use one switched digital output so that I can take control over my boost bleed air injection system so that I can hold all my boost in when i go WOT rather than have it bled into the cat to keep emissions down. + YES - I can either do this through the Vtec interface and the Auxilliary output setting map or using the NVCS/Relay channel depending on weather I need to supply +12v or 0v to the solenoid. Do all of this without touching my ignition setup (very complex COP) and keeping timing / ignition control with the ECU + YES Do all this while taking the Emanage RPM input from any of my 4 coils (as there is no dizzy or rpm pulse that i could tap into) + YES requires jumper setting and choosing the right rpm type Do all of this while using my MAP as my TPS input (so the E-manage knows when the car is shifting (boost drops to 0 and then builds again) even when i'm 100% floored ) (automatic transmission) (possibly using the manual min/max settings for the TPS) +Yes , just wire the MAP to both analog input 2 and the TPS input How does the additional injection pulse width feature work, do you CUT the injector wires or do you just tap into them like the EM-Blue ? If you cut them totally ? do you think it will trigger a CEL on OBD-2 ? +You cut them totally... and rewire hte emanage to your injectors, Some cars do throw a CEL (including 98+ 3000GT's) and greddy has created an extra wiring pack to simulate injectors ... I'm attaching it for info ... actually i can't attach on here ? Anyway, you can buy it from greddy for 50 bux... it solves the CEL problem ... I'm gonna look around, maybe there's another device that has more analog I/O's where i can do it all ... -------------------- 2005 MB C200 Kompressor- K&N, Apexi WS2 Catback, DIY Voltage stabilizer, Intrax Springs, H&R RR swaybar, VDO Boost Gauge @ 6psi, Greddy L7 plugs, +0 Rear tires
To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi |
Jul 9, 2008 - 1:28 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '06 From AUSTRALIA(MELB) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nice manny.. what kind of harness kit are you using and what car is it for? do you have a full step to step installation guide for that ultimate wire to the 5sfe ecu? im all the way over in Australia and i plan to buy the greddy ultimate to tune my 5sfte to. if you can supply me with one it will be great.
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Jul 9, 2008 - 10:33 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 17, '04 From St Louis, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
only harness maker i know of...
http://www.boomslang.us/ultimate.htm but pretty much you have to wire it yourself ... it's not hard especially if you have the ECU pin outs for your car.. it may take you only 2-3 hours to do the whole thing... -------------------- 2005 MB C200 Kompressor- K&N, Apexi WS2 Catback, DIY Voltage stabilizer, Intrax Springs, H&R RR swaybar, VDO Boost Gauge @ 6psi, Greddy L7 plugs, +0 Rear tires
To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi |
Jul 10, 2008 - 4:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '06 From Regina, SK, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 38 (100%) |
only harness maker i know of... http://www.boomslang.us/ultimate.htm but pretty much you have to wire it yourself ... it's not hard especially if you have the ECU pin outs for your car.. it may take you only 2-3 hours to do the whole thing... Don't really think the Boomslang would work since they don't have our cars listed. Possibly get a custom harness made up from them, but probably easiest to just wire it yourself. -------------------- |
Jul 10, 2008 - 8:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '07 From Bergen county NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 24 (100%) |
could u use the mr2 one?
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Jul 17, 2008 - 1:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '06 From AUSTRALIA(MELB) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
was the hardness kit for a 3sge or is it a universal one?
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Jul 23, 2008 - 2:08 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '06 From AUSTRALIA(MELB) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
bump
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Jul 23, 2008 - 2:09 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
universal.
-------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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