Can a Cop make you Pop.... |
Can a Cop make you Pop.... |
Jul 21, 2008 - 11:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '08 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well....in my opinion....2 words....COPS SUCK!
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Jul 21, 2008 - 11:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 18, '08 From Crestview fl Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey wait a minute im a cop..................but i gotta kinda agree
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Jul 22, 2008 - 10:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '07 From Bakersfield, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
New News... I heard a cop can "ASK" you to pop your hood, assuming there is no real reason of you committing a traffic violation and assuming it is because your car caught their eye. Now I am currently trying to discover from an attorney if in fact you can be forced to if you commit no serious traffic violation.
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Jul 22, 2008 - 11:01 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
You can say no, but believe me, you'll regret it.
You don't "have" to let a cop do crap, but when it comes down to it, you "could" be drunk, and it's your word against his. So you'd get a dui and he'd have "reasonable cause" to search your car. But on the bright side, alot of police don't know the first thing about engine performance. They have to take a driving course, but otherwise, their cars are already built for them, and they don't have to do a thing to it. They're trained to look for nitrogen oxide bottles; but provided you have a heat shield over your turbo, i'm sure 2/3 they wouldn't recognize it. The ones that would, will do some B.S.ing with you for a bit, then send you on your way. Those are the law-men that enjoy the auto-racing sport, and as long as your not an idiot, (racing on the street ) they usualy dont care. In texas, you cannot get a ticket for havening a car that dosent meet emissions unless your sticker is out. And that's a ticket for the sticker, not for the car. (unless it's EXCESSIVE!!) find your local laws at http://www.usa.gov/ This post has been edited by D-Man: Jul 22, 2008 - 11:02 AM -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Jul 22, 2008 - 11:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '07 From Bakersfield, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
You can say no, but believe me, you'll regret it. You don't "have" to let a cop do crap, but when it comes down to it, you "could" be drunk, and it's your word against his. So you'd get a dui and he'd have "reasonable cause" to search your car. But on the bright side, alot of police don't know the first thing about engine performance. They have to take a driving course, but otherwise, their cars are already built for them, and they don't have to do a thing to it. They're trained to look for nitrogen oxide bottles; but provided you have a heat shield over your turbo, i'm sure 2/3 they wouldn't recognize it. The ones that would, will do some B.S.ing with you for a bit, then send you on your way. Those are the law-men that enjoy the auto-racing sport, and as long as your not an idiot, (racing on the street ) they usualy dont care. In texas, you cannot get a ticket for havening a car that dosent meet emissions unless your sticker is out. And that's a ticket for the sticker, not for the car. (unless it's EXCESSIVE!!) find your local laws at http://www.usa.gov/ Thanks. It looks like I might be moving to Texas after I finish school then. Because loving cars in California is like holding out on women for Jessica Alba...... Just can't happen. I wonder what other states nearby allow you to be exempt from emissions. I know some counties in Nevada do that. I just wish and pray Vegas is in one of them (doubt it). This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Jul 22, 2008 - 11:16 AM -------------------- 91 MR2 Turbo SW20, 92 MR2 Turbo SW20, 95 Celica GT ST204
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Jul 22, 2008 - 11:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '08 From Fort Worth, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
well i think in cali its diff cause of the emission laws, and i think they are trained on the types of engine that are being swaped in like sr20 swaps, but thats hear say you would just have to ask a cop you see around and strike up a convo for you guys in cali
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Jul 22, 2008 - 11:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '07 From Northeast Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
honestly i think he might have just been a fan of cars and was wondering if u had much done to it. my friend got pulled over in his mustang jsut because the cop thought it looked great and wanted to ask him about it. I just talked to my sister who majored in criminal justice. she said that if they had suspision of you haveing something illegal under the hood than they can ask. u can refuse but they might take u to jail and take your whip. but i explained to her your scenario and she said that he was probably just fishin around tryin to find somethin to do to take up time
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Jul 22, 2008 - 11:56 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
they can search your car at any time during a stop if they feel the need to.
its called "probable cause" which really means if they want to they can, and no they don't have to put you into custody because of it. My car has always been stripped with basically front seats and a dash so I encouraged them to search |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '07 From Northeast Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
they can search your car at any time during a stop if they feel the need to. its called "probable cause" which really means if they want to they can, and no they don't have to put you into custody because of it. My car has always been stripped with basically front seats and a dash so I encouraged them to search funny story about car search, my firends and i went to denny's at about 1 am on saturday and we got pulled over for cuting a cop off which wasnt true at all. anyway, if a cop asks if he can search your car u CAN say no adn that means they cant search your car. thats what most citiezens dont know. u can say know to teh cops search request. unless you are hgih or drunk they can. or of course a warrant. other than that tell em to piss off...in a ncie way haha -------------------- QUOTE ‹Superaison› i'm a computer inclined guy.. ‹Superaison› or girl. idk what gender I am anymore. ‹SeverX13› *facepalm* QUOTE suprakid: o sh!t suprakid: i wanna get an obama chia pet SeverX13: hahahahaha |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Yeah, back when i ran Cougars i used to get pulled over all the time (in my '85) because it was a Rip-Roaring beast of a car. (looked like a total sleeper) but i'd get pulled over and asked to see what it had, and never once got a ticket in it. Even when i deserved one (had a sticker out once, nothing crazy ) but it's classic look, and obvious "power over beauty" build got alot of attention.
Well, that and the fact that it looked like this: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j301/jta...85/DCAM0052.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j301/jta...85/DCAM0064.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j301/jta...85/DCAM0065.jpg But after seeing those pics, you can imagine the police wanted to know why on earth anyone would drive it. (they usualy understood when seeing the Super'd v8 5.0L) But On topic, you need to check your local laws. Texas (luckily for me ) has THE MOST lax and lenient laws in the country (driving wise). Mostly because every 4th car on the road is a dually-diesel, 2/3rds of the rest of the population are trucks or SUV's; half of witch are heavily modified and jacked up 4-6 ft high. now; this changes state to state, so i reccomend that you check your own states (and citys) driving laws, before making any kind of mod. EDIT: at the same time i also had a 2003 cougar; but i loved to run the 85! Such a sweet ride!! This post has been edited by D-Man: Jul 22, 2008 - 12:11 PM -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
they can search your car at any time during a stop if they feel the need to. its called "probable cause" which really means if they want to they can, and no they don't have to put you into custody because of it. My car has always been stripped with basically front seats and a dash so I encouraged them to search funny story about car search, my firends and i went to denny's at about 1 am on saturday and we got pulled over for cuting a cop off which wasnt true at all. anyway, if a cop asks if he can search your car u CAN say no adn that means they cant search your car. thats what most citiezens dont know. u can say know to teh cops search request. unless you are hgih or drunk they can. or of course a warrant. other than that tell em to piss off...in a ncie way haha are you currently high or drunk? cause half of what you wrote, didn't make sense or didn't spell a correct word Yes they can search your car, yes you can say no. But if you have nothing to hide whats does it matter? you only create more trouble by making things difficult. This post has been edited by playr158: Jul 22, 2008 - 12:09 PM |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
I hate to admit it, but:
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '07 From Northeast Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
haha yea i tend to type real fast and hit letters before others.
well my one friend whos car we were in is very sensitive about his stuff, he has everything perfect in his car, he has some OCD because he HAS to have everything in the same spot on not messed up. if someone messes it up he goes nuts. so he siad no i would not like you to search my car, the cop ahd a surprised look on his face and said alright -------------------- QUOTE ‹Superaison› i'm a computer inclined guy.. ‹Superaison› or girl. idk what gender I am anymore. ‹SeverX13› *facepalm* QUOTE suprakid: o sh!t suprakid: i wanna get an obama chia pet SeverX13: hahahahaha |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
yeah, but you wont always get off that easily sever. It is a true fact, you dont have to let them search anything. BUT; if they say you're drunk or high or something, it's your word aginst theirs, and they can really jack you up. (believe me, we've got alot of police friends throughout my family, and these guys think its hallarious to do stuff like that to "punk kids") So have respect and your more likey to get off.
But i will admit sever, this is a true fact! you CAN tell them to piss off. (But just because you CAN do something, doesn't necessarily make it a good idea ) This post has been edited by D-Man: Jul 22, 2008 - 12:20 PM -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '07 From Northeast Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
oh i know haha, i have respect for cops. my sister was one. when i got pulled over it was yes sir no sir. but my friend was a dick to this cop do to this cop being one to bully others
This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jul 22, 2008 - 12:22 PM -------------------- QUOTE ‹Superaison› i'm a computer inclined guy.. ‹Superaison› or girl. idk what gender I am anymore. ‹SeverX13› *facepalm* QUOTE suprakid: o sh!t suprakid: i wanna get an obama chia pet SeverX13: hahahahaha |
Jul 22, 2008 - 12:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
By law, you have the right to refuse a search, and the officer can NOT search the inside of the car without probable cause.
Now if the officer sees an open beer bottle in your back seat, or gets a drug dog, who indicates drugs in the car, then that is the probable cause that lets him search the car. If he doesn't see/find any of those things, then he can not search your car without a search warrant. However...California works a little differently. They still cant just search the inside of your car for no reason, but they can make you pop your hood. The probable cause in that case would be if the car looks modified from the outside. THIS LAW ONLY APPLIES TO CALIFORNIA. No other state will ask you to pop your hood. This post has been edited by lagos: Jul 22, 2008 - 12:48 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Jul 22, 2008 - 1:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Here is a great thread to check out on this topic.
A guy with a bone stock evo9 asks why they make him pop the hood, on a socal police forum... http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73003 -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Jul 22, 2008 - 1:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 12, '06 From Fob Sharana, Afghanistan Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Yes, what Lagos says is right. They can't just pull you over and try to search your car without probable cause. I would understand if they saw a gun or any kind of narcotics in the passenger or rear seat. But other than that, they can't right you up for a modified car. There is NO LAW IN AMERICA that states you cannot modify your vehicle. Unless it's a safety issue such as getting rid of your rear quarter windows which will cause a blind spot. Every vehicle part will need replacement parts after a while because they will go bad! Such as rusty leaky exhaust pipes. BUT what you cannot do is modify the volume output of your vehicles exhaust. Meaning that you can have a modified exhaust. It just can't be as loud as your stock exhaust system. Fortunately no one really takes records of the volume output on cars. But ofcourse, if they hear you a mile away, they have every right to ticket you. Besides that, they can't ticket you for anything that is modified. Ofcourse, they will try to f*ck with you and say misleaded statements such as, "You know, it's illegal to modify your exhaust right?" Or "You know it's illegal to modify a vehicle right?" Just so they can right you up for something.
FLORIDA STATUTE 316.293 (Subsection 5A-B) ? (5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.-- (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured. (b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified. The exhaust cannot be LOUDER THAN ORIGINALLY MANUFACTURED. However, the flaw with this is the fact that the policing agencies in FL rarely, if ever, have any sound testing equipment. NOR do they know what the stock DB level on your car is. Now, if you still have the cats, resonators and mufflers there isnt much ground for them to stand on. Also, there are flaws in the fact that your exhaust can be modified an still be quieter than a stock production car (SRT4 and Cobras come to mind but try not to use this argument) Also, here are the DB limits for passenger cars (to be measured at 50ft) .....................................under 35mph ...........over 35mph Before January 1, 1979 ........76 dB A .................A82 dB A On or after January 1, 1979 ....72 dB A ................79 dB A This post has been edited by FortuneCookie: Jul 22, 2008 - 2:03 PM |
Jul 22, 2008 - 3:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 18, '08 From Crestview fl Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
wow as much as i hate fl i really like it after seeing the bs yall have to go through. I have no emmisions no inspection sticker an i usually ride around with 5% tint on my windows and never got stoped for it!!!
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Jul 22, 2008 - 6:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '07 From Bakersfield, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
wow as much as i hate fl i really like it after seeing the bs yall have to go through. I have no emmisions no inspection sticker an i usually ride around with 5% tint on my windows and never got stoped for it!!! LOL My sister just moved to FL, maybe I should head out there too. I don't get how your exhaust can't be loud for noise pollution, but the ice cream man can bump his jack in the box tracks while he cruises through your hood. That is loud too. -------------------- 91 MR2 Turbo SW20, 92 MR2 Turbo SW20, 95 Celica GT ST204
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