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post Aug 5, 2008 - 12:58 PM
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Okay, i just pulled up to my shop, and when i turned my car off & removed the keys, the A/C kept blowing, and the internal lights stayed on. It is in park, and it clicked past ACC back to norm, but the car is not fully shutting off. My fuel pump is staying in "ready-mode" because as i toggle the key thru the ignition options, it dosen't shut-off and re-prime.

We're having a LOT of rain out right now, maybe that has something to do with it. B/c of the rain, i'd rather not go and disconect the batt (there is supposed to be a huricane goin on here, right now i'm just getting heavy rain, but i need the car ready to go incase something happends.) I really dont want my batt dieing either and having to re-charge it in our little monsoon either...

Ideas, tips, solutions?


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 1:10 PM
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Oh sh*t - that's a weird one. Better disconnect it maybe? Perhaps that'll reset something - damnit IDK. That ones got me stumped.


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 1:18 PM
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I'm guessing it could be a N/O relay stuck closed somewhere... I wouldn't even know where to look though, and i i dont wanna go playing with relays and battery's in this weather... and dont have my garage yet either mad.gif

My boss is cool and said (hell we have had 2 phone calls all day laugh.gif ) but he'll let me run out every hour or so and restart it and run it a bit, i know that's not best for the battary, but our building is old and looses power all the time, i dont want to have to re-connect or re-charge when the weather gets that bad. frown.gif


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 1:28 PM
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Could be the ignition switch, something could have let loose on the inside and the proper terminals aren't being let loose.


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 1:38 PM
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QUOTE (Fastbird @ Aug 5, 2008 - 1:28 PM) *
Could be the ignition switch, something could have let loose on the inside and the proper terminals aren't being let loose.

how do i go about removing it so i can find out?


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:03 PM
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You have an automatic, don't you? Make sure it's "clicked" into P.


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:20 PM
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:03 PM) *
You have an automatic, don't you? Make sure it's "clicked" into P.


It is. I restarted the car and re-checked it a few times.

Plus, the key comes out, hell, the keys are in my pocket right now! and i havn't removed the locking pin yet (mostly because the ignition switch has a horribly long shaft that i didn't feel like puling so i could take it out)


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:42 PM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Aug 5, 2008 - 3:20 PM) *
QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:03 PM) *
You have an automatic, don't you? Make sure it's "clicked" into P.


It is. I restarted the car and re-checked it a few times.

Plus, the key comes out, hell, the keys are in my pocket right now! and i havn't removed the locking pin yet (mostly because the ignition switch has a horribly long shaft that i didn't feel like puling so i could take it out)

it sounds like the ignition barrel you could pull the connector to barrell to isolate to see if that turns all off


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:47 PM
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Yeah sounds like the ignition switch is stuck on. If you climb under the dash on the driver's side, follow the ignition barrel down, (opposite where the key goes in), there's a plug with like 5-6 large wires going to it. That's the ignition switch. For a temporary fix you could just unplug that plug.

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:53 PM
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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:47 PM) *
Yeah sounds like the ignition switch is stuck on. If you climb under the dash on the driver's side, follow the ignition barrel down, (opposite where the key goes in), there's a plug with like 5-6 large wires going to it. That's the ignition switch. For a temporary fix you could just unplug that plug.

-Doc


SWEET, that sounds like the kind of solution that'd be right for me for the time being! (till i get home) I'll try that the next hour when i goto re-charge the battery.

And just to make sure I've got this right: it's going to be near the gas petal, right?

This post has been edited by D-Man: Aug 5, 2008 - 2:54 PM


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D-Man's post should be a sticky

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:54 PM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Aug 5, 2008 - 7:53 PM) *
QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:47 PM) *
Yeah sounds like the ignition switch is stuck on. If you climb under the dash on the driver's side, follow the ignition barrel down, (opposite where the key goes in), there's a plug with like 5-6 large wires going to it. That's the ignition switch. For a temporary fix you could just unplug that plug.

-Doc


SWEET, that sounds like the kind of solution that'd be right for me for the time being! (till i get home) I'll try that the next hour when i goto re-charge the battery.

And just to make sure I've got this right: I follow the ignition barrel, untill it ends; then wires flow out of it; and i'll follow the wires; to the connecting harness; and unplug their... Correct?


Not quite, you unplug it RIGHT AT the end of the ignition barrel, no following of wires needed.

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:57 PM
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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:54 PM) *
Not quite, you unplug it RIGHT AT the end of the ignition barrel, no following of wires needed.

-Doc

Right on, but note my edit, (sorry, i was dealing with a customer)

It's near the gas petal? or atleast in that general direction, yeah? Or am i thinking of the WRONG "opposite" direction?



This post has been edited by D-Man: Aug 5, 2008 - 2:59 PM


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 2:59 PM
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NVM - Wrong car laugh.gif

This post has been edited by DEATH: Aug 5, 2008 - 3:00 PM


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Slow down Paul Walker.

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 3:06 PM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Aug 5, 2008 - 7:57 PM) *
QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:54 PM) *
Not quite, you unplug it RIGHT AT the end of the ignition barrel, no following of wires needed.

-Doc

Right on, but note my edit, (sorry, i was dealing with a customer)

It's near the gas petal? or atleast in that general direction, yeah? Or am i thinking of the WRONG "opposite" direction?


Well it's in that general direction but the ignition barrel isn't *that* long smile.gif

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 3:09 PM
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QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:59 PM) *
NVM - Wrong car laugh.gif


DAMNIT!! well... I just gotta figure it out in 60 seconds or less when i goto restart my car at 4.00-4.30ish That way i can re-charge and power down. biggrin.gif

Thanks you guys for all of your help. I hope it works.

Incase it doesn't, what else should i look for? (remember i'm new to the celica's) Is their a relay in the fuse panel that is activated via power through the ACC line? or is the ACC setting actually a switch for the power to flow through the fuse panel?


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 3:13 PM
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Pulling the engine main relay should do it... or the large fuses in the engine bay fusebox (all but the 100-amp).

-Doc

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 3:26 PM
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D-man - there is ony one screw in your way man and it's right under the ignition ring. Remove it and that side of the plastic underneath will pop down. Then you will be able to get to the barrel.
Try not to go pulling those fuses and complicate your problem if possible. Do what Tweak said - it's gonna be easy to find.
I don't get off until 6:30 today kindasad.gif


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post Aug 5, 2008 - 4:32 PM
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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:47 PM) *
Yeah sounds like the ignition switch is stuck on. If you climb under the dash on the driver's side, follow the ignition barrel down, (opposite where the key goes in), there's a plug with like 5-6 large wires going to it. That's the ignition switch. For a temporary fix you could just unplug that plug.

-Doc


That didn't work... but i may have pulled the wrong one rolleyes.gif

While i was in there this last time however, i'm finding that my windows roll up and down w/o the key, but the radio does not come on... I was under the belief that the windows and the radio were on the same or parallel circuits...

Anyway, i'll try pulling some fuses when i get home if i cant figure anything else...

Just for sh!ts and giggles though, I know i have some kind of alarm system in my car, and it doesn't seem to spiffy, but (seeing as i have no remotes, i set it by poping the hood, and key-ing the ignition) Could a remote-start mechanism be fcuking something up? Because i was inspecting it while i was under their, and it seems to be shoved intheir rather crapily, and with wires running everwhere, and me jumping in and out of the car in the rain, i may have kicked something & grounded it out or something...

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 4:34 PM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Aug 5, 2008 - 10:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 2:47 PM) *
Yeah sounds like the ignition switch is stuck on. If you climb under the dash on the driver's side, follow the ignition barrel down, (opposite where the key goes in), there's a plug with like 5-6 large wires going to it. That's the ignition switch. For a temporary fix you could just unplug that plug.

-Doc


That didn't work... but i may have pulled the wrong one rolleyes.gif

While i was in there this last time however, i'm finding that my windows roll up and down w/o the key, but the radio does not come on... I was under the belief that the windows and the radio were on the same or parallel circuits...

Anyway, i'll try pulling some fuses when i get home if i cant figure anything else...

Just for sh!ts and giggles though, I know i have some kind of alarm system in my car, and it doesn't seem to spiffy, but (seeing as i have no remotes, i set it by poping the hood, and key-ing the ignition) Could a remote-start mechanism be fcuking something up?


Yeah definitely, especially since pulling the ignition switch plug didn't do anything, that means it's being bypassed.

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post Aug 5, 2008 - 4:38 PM
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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Aug 5, 2008 - 4:34 PM) *
Yeah definitely, especially since pulling the ignition switch plug didn't do anything, that means it's being bypassed.

-Doc

Sh!t, i was hoping you we're gunna say no... laugh.gif ... Okay, that means i gotta get under their and find out what this jack-ass (who-installed it) has done, and then fix it, or find something grounding out / crossing something else...

That sucks, that means this problem is all my own, and no amount of 6gc.net members or Toyota wiring diagrams can help... frown.gif

Actualy, a toyota wiring diagram can help me to remove this alarm if nothing else works, Does anyone have one? 5s-fe


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QUOTE (99GT @ Nov 14, 2008 - 4:04 PM) *
D-Man's post should be a sticky

QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 4, 2008 - 10:50 AM) *
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