3sgte AWD Conversion, Trying it anyway! |
3sgte AWD Conversion, Trying it anyway! |
Apr 30, 2008 - 11:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
so all you need is to get this bad boy tuned and we will get some nice vids of the car?
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Apr 30, 2008 - 11:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From Oceanside Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
the tuning or the AWD conversion or what I put into the whole car in total?
QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669772[/snapback] just because i want to know, How much is all this going to cost you? That is most definately the plan! QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669773[/snapback] so all you need is to get this bad boy tuned and we will get some nice vids of the car? |
Apr 30, 2008 - 11:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 23, '07 From Houston TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Green_MachToy @ Apr 30, 2008 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]669774[/snapback] the tuning or the AWD conversion or what I put into the whole car in total? QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669772[/snapback] just because i want to know, How much is all this going to cost you? That is most definately the plan! QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669773[/snapback] so all you need is to get this bad boy tuned and we will get some nice vids of the car? the Whole AWD conversion |
Apr 30, 2008 - 11:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From Oceanside Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:21 AM) [snapback]669777[/snapback] QUOTE(Green_MachToy @ Apr 30, 2008 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]669774[/snapback] the tuning or the AWD conversion or what I put into the whole car in total? QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:17 AM) [snapback]669772[/snapback] just because i want to know, How much is all this going to cost you? the Whole AWD conversion I got the parts for about $2k the rest was time and labor. I think we went through this earlier in this thread. My buddy will still do this for people on here...I will look back at his price... Here is the old infomration but is still right. If anyone is interested I will hit him up to see if the price is the same.... The parts cost me approx 2k (excluding the tranny, driveshaft, rear diff - I got those with my clip). The hardest part about that was finding a place that would part out a car ship them out to me. I got them from a guy in Europe. It is a junk yard. I would suggest we go through someone on here rather than taking a chance like I did through e-bay. But I got the parts and that price included shipping. Since it was me and a friend of mine doing the work the price on labor is a rough guess. Looking at what we did and the time it took us, I would say that would have probably been about 5k (a lot of time spent figuring it out as we went) if it was done at a shop. I talked to my friend and he said he would probably do the work for anyone on here for around 3-4k. Now some of the parts can be gotten cheaper as a couple people have pointed out on here that the rear is the same on a ST165 and ST185. The arms and hubs also appear to be the same. The difference is those monster calipers and discs. Not to mention the sway bars....I should have gotten them from the guy at the Junk yard as well. By going fuel cell instead of the tank like I did, would probably save a lot of time and money or be a wash between the cost of the cell and fabrication. My guess at this point would be it can all be done if paying someone else for everything for around 5+k. QUOTE(6strngs @ Feb 22, 2007 - 3:55 AM) QUOTE(Green_MachToy @ Feb 21, 2007 - 6:20 PM) Which parts? The whole project or just the rear? QUOTE(6strngs @ Feb 21, 2007 - 7:04 AM) I want!!! so how much has this cost you start to finish, if you don't mind me asking. everything, the whole AWD conversion (not including 3sgte engine). Cost of parts, labor, specialty tools, custom fabrication, etc. everything needed to go from FWD to AWD. This post has been edited by Green_MachToy: Apr 30, 2008 - 11:26 PM |
Apr 30, 2008 - 11:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 23, '07 From Houston TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
sorry i must have missed it, thats a lot lower then i thought it would be.
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Apr 30, 2008 - 11:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From Oceanside Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I think he was able to get everything welded in less than a few weeks. We did much more than that. That's why it took me so long.
QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ May 1, 2008 - 4:26 AM) [snapback]669779[/snapback] sorry i must have missed it, thats a lot lower then i thought it would be. |
May 3, 2008 - 2:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From Oceanside Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Well it appears I will not be able to attend ToyotaFest tomorrow with the car. Spent most of this evening trying to get the tune down to be able to drive to Toyota Fest. It was running and driving fine up until this evening. It appears that I broke three bolts off the drive shaft into the rear diff. This in turn caused several problems. It looks as though the rear drive shaft hung on with one bolt and lodged betweet the diff and the support locking up the rear. It caused me to skid to a hault. I couldn't get it removed and had to remove sections of the drive shaft to get it back home. I do not know how much more damage occurred, and will look further into it tomorrow. I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged. I will keep everyone posted.
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May 3, 2008 - 3:06 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
aww man that really sucks. hope the damage isn't too bad.
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May 3, 2008 - 9:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '06 From Knoxville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
That stinks, good luck getting it fixed.
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May 3, 2008 - 6:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
wow that sucks
problems are expected w/ something this big, though. good luck!! -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jul 19, 2008 - 9:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Any updates?
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Aug 12, 2008 - 12:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '08 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
dont expect any updates soon . judging from this guys last post: "I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged" theres only one explanation for the lack of updates
he killed himself -------------------- |
Aug 12, 2008 - 12:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
dont expect any updates soon . judging from this guys last post: "I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged" theres only one explanation for the lack of updates he killed himself haha i would kill myself too -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Aug 12, 2008 - 1:05 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
dont expect any updates soon . judging from this guys last post: "I was leaking tranny fluid from the transfer case, but am not sure of the reason or if the transfer case or tranny are damaged" theres only one explanation for the lack of updates he killed himself that's not nice, even as a joke I hope he's ok and is just that he's busy still working on the car or just busy with life -------------------- |
Aug 12, 2008 - 4:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '08 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
theres no doubt that hes still alive. people who perform awd conversions dont die. its a fact.
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Sep 8, 2008 - 3:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 8, '08 From Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Im doing the same thing at the moment but have st185 awd to put on my st but i can't bring up your pics do you have them anywhere else. The engine and the front shaft and struts are find but i can see the rear is going to be a headache do you have any advise.
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Sep 8, 2008 - 4:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly
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Sep 11, 2008 - 6:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 8, '08 From Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly I actually have the at 200 model which i found out is going to need some fab to convert it. Im up for the challange At the mement it is just fwd drive going to be converting to awd drive but need as much advise as possible. |
Sep 11, 2008 - 6:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly I actually have the at 200 model which i found out is going to need some fab to convert it. Im up for the challange At the mement it is just fwd drive going to be converting to awd drive but need as much advise as possible. a) all celicas (st204/st206/st205/at200) share the same chassis b) all celicas *6th gen are FWD besides the GT4 c) the rear end of an ST205/ST185 will not bolt up to any celica except for the one on which it came from originally, all others will need serious work. so if azian is right.....your junks is too narrow. but i have all of this guys pics, I can get them up later for you. This post has been edited by playr158: Sep 11, 2008 - 6:14 AM |
Sep 11, 2008 - 6:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 8, '08 From Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i know the st185 awd rear isn't as wide as the st205.. the st205 rear axles are a few inches longer if i recall correctly I actually have the at 200 model which i found out is going to need some fab to convert it. Im up for the challange At the mement it is just fwd drive going to be converting to awd drive but need as much advise as possible. a) all celicas (st204/st206/st205/at200) share the same chassis b) all celicas *6th gen are FWD besides the GT4 c) the rear end of an ST205/ST185 will not bolt up to any celica except for the one on which it came from originally, all others will need serious work. so if azian is right.....your junks is too narrow. but i have all of this guys pics, I can get them up later for you. S**t if thats the case im going to have to find a gt4 awd for parts ill messure just to check haven't done much work as of yet have the engine ready to come out with loom and all was going to start on the under body soon enough. Man i hope i will fit ah sure ill find out this evening and messure it. |
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