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post Aug 31, 2008 - 10:27 AM
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I have the brackets that came with them, but I know there's other modification necessary.

And I know about the amp, whoever told me I didn't have to doesn't know too much, apparently...then again, I didn't know whether or not I needed one either.
post Aug 31, 2008 - 12:11 PM
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Hey, i've just done my front and rear speakers too - it's a pretty easy job just set aside a few hours to do it.

For the fronts I bought these some adapters from ebay to save having to modify the existing / make custom brackets to fit them:

Celica 94-99 Front Speaker Adapters The guy doesn't always list them but if you mail him he'll put them up for you.

Enjoy your new sysetm!
post Aug 31, 2008 - 1:49 PM
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Thanks man! I just put in the head unit, and it already sounds great...with replaced front speakers, finally non-blown ones, it's gonna sound mad narsty.

About the adapters, I'm gonna try to fit them without...if not, I'll order those. Thanks for the heads-up.

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post Aug 31, 2008 - 5:22 PM
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Never mind on the adapters. The harness didn't even fit, so I'm returning these for ones that are made to fit the front.
post Aug 31, 2008 - 5:45 PM
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post Sep 1, 2008 - 2:36 PM
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Hey Bud - what harness didn't fit- how are you trying to wire this all up?
post Sep 1, 2008 - 7:34 PM
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I ordered from crutchfield.com knowing that they wouldn't fit in the front, so the harness they sent me (only option was to select rear fitment) was for the rear, not the front. The only wiring I needed was from the speaker to the connections in the door, so I could've spliced the wires and connected them that way, but I was also told that they wouldn't line up right with the grill, therefore I just decided to return them.

These are gonna replace them.
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Ite...nwood&tp=94

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did you need to buy a car specific harness to install the headunit? If so, do you have a link to what it looks like?
post Sep 2, 2008 - 8:01 AM
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Hey, I guess i'm not too clear on what you are referring to as a harness, me being dumb and I couldn't access the link.

The stock door mounts are for 8" speakers, i've seen a number of posts where people have talked about fitting an 8" sub in here so I guess there would be no reason why you wouldn't be able to fit an 8" 2/3 way speaker but one of the more experience guys would be able to give you some advice there.

My 6.5" worked fine and sits perfectly behind the stock door grilles:



Though I do need to properly mount that crossover unit.



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post Sep 2, 2008 - 6:22 PM
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I'm not talking about the harness for the head unit, I'm talking about the harness for the speakers. The head unit installed just fine.

What I meant was that the only option was to order the speakers to fit in the rear, since there was no other option, hence, for that speaker they don't make a harness that fits the front, so I couldn't make the connection between the speaker and the existing wires in the door. Like I said, I could've spliced the wires and connected them that way, but I would've also had fitment issues.

The speakers wer 6 1/2", not 8 1/2." I guess I needed 6 3/4."
post Sep 3, 2008 - 3:46 AM
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Ahh, i see what you mean now - I didn't have that problem as I'm using a cross over and had to cut the white connector off and attached the wires directly to the unit. If i wasn't though I would have still done the same thing but used a small terminal block instead of the cross over.

Personally I wouldn't worry about the harness / connector but I suppose it does make it all nice and factory fit style.

In regards to speaker size the only unit you are going to get to fit directly in is a 8"/20cm - these should just screw straight in with no problems. With the 6 1/2" you are either going to have to modify the existing adapter the stock speakers are mounted in, buy a ready made adapter or make your own from a sheet of MDF.
post Sep 5, 2008 - 7:36 PM
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Okay guy, I was stupid enough not to listen and now I'm paying for being an idiot. Once again, they don't fit (I realize you told me) and I'm ordering the adapters you recommended now. Now I just have to decide whether I wanna keep the Alpine's or the Kenwoods. biggrin.gif
post Sep 6, 2008 - 4:50 AM
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I don't know much about Kenwood to be honest but from brand strength I would say Alpine all the way. Previous comments on this thread also recommend them but I doubt there is really too much in it and either will be a massive improvement on the stock's. When you fit the adapters remember to use the silicon sealant to prevent rattling! Good Luck!
post Sep 6, 2008 - 8:38 AM
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Yeah, I'm gonna keep the Alpines...I figured they were the better deal.

Just regular old silicone sealant? Okay. You're talking about in between the adapter and the old speaker housing?
post Sep 6, 2008 - 11:16 AM
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Good choice.

I just got some regular silicon sealant from the local B&Q - I used it between the speaker and adapter but you could use it where ever 2 parts join!

Probably won't matter too much unless you are amping the speakers but if your going to do a job best to do it right!
post Sep 7, 2008 - 6:47 PM
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That is true...I'll probably just throw them in first, if I find that they rattle I'll seal them and also buy some baffles.
post Sep 21, 2008 - 10:01 AM
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So, there was a problem at Crutchfield and they sent me the wrong order, so I only have the fronts for now. Waiting on the rears for a couple days max. biggrin.gif

I put them in yesterday with those adapters and they fit beautifully, except for the tiny bit of rattle...I'll redo with silicone in a couple days. The sound is so much better though, my stock speakers in the back just sound like rattling cans in comparison.
post Sep 27, 2008 - 3:23 PM
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Yeah - i was amazed on the difference new speakers made. I went for component speakers upfront which upgraded my 4-speaker setup to 6. The clarity is awesome.
post Oct 4, 2008 - 1:54 PM
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So, I put in the rears today. It was a bitch to take the panel off and to get any access to the bolts and screws. But, they're in and that's all that matters in the end. As far as I know, they don't rattle, however the fronts rattle massively. After I seal the speakers to the adapters, I'm sure there will be more...just the age of the car I guess, not to mention all the screws and whatever else that are loose in there.

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