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post Oct 21, 2008 - 2:14 PM
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hi,

I am looking into installing a new head unit and 6" front speakers into the doors at the front.

I have the original toyota cassette player and speakers but do not like it.

is it easy to swap this system and put in a Sony DAB stero and infinity componant speakers?

http://shop.audioimages.co.uk/sony-cdx-dab...rol-p-1049.html
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-...0cs_p-22418.htm


Could a novice like myself do this? Does it require expert installation? Do I need to mess around with any of the car's electrical systems eg affecting the fuse box etc? sorry i dont know much about cars!

thanks
post Oct 21, 2008 - 2:24 PM
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Hi rasta,

Changing out the head unit is fairly simple. It does not involve anything with the fuses/electrical system. You'll need a wiring harness for your car, what that does is plugs into the car and has wires for you to connect so you do not have to cut the factory wiring harness. Then the radio and harness should come with instructions on how to wire it up, and what color wire corresponds to what function, like speakers, antenna, etc. From that point its just a matter of crimping the wires together and sticking it back into the dash.

here is a detailed how-to.

The speakers are also fairly easy but you'll have to find a way to modify the housing in the door to accomodate a smaller size speaker. You can custom make something or do something like Death did here.


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post Oct 21, 2008 - 2:55 PM
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It's pretty easy, I did the exact same thing and I'm a noob as well. I ordered my stuff from Crutchfield.com, so it came with specific instructions, but I'm sure whatever you're getting does too, and if not, you can get the how-to here.

The only way that the speakers will drop in is to order adapters, unless you want to make your own.
http://cgi.ebay.com/6-Front-Speaker-Adapte...1742.m153.l1262
These are the ones you need, and everything should just fit right in. Like samir said, you'll need harness for both speakers and the head unit.
post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:03 PM
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QUOTE (rasta @ Oct 21, 2008 - 2:14 PM) *
Could a novice like myself do this? Does it require expert installation? Do I need to mess around with any of the car's electrical systems eg affecting the fuse box etc? sorry i dont know much about cars!
Yes, No, Anything electrical goes through the fuse box (although you wont be messing with any fuses)

finally, you'll need to bypass your factory amp. Don't forget to buy a wiring harness for this; as well as some connectors. Do a search, there are about 100 different installs and how-to's. Feel free to PM if you need any one on one advice.

EDIT: PLEASE do not cheap out by using electrical tape instead of real connectors. Whom ever had my car before me did this, and it pisses me off that someone would spend the same amount of money on a roll of electrical tape, opposed to the same price on real connectors. Remember that electrical tape will eventually come off, and when those wires touch other wires or anything metal in the dash; then things start getting fried, burnt, broken, and destroyed. mad.gif

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post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:04 PM
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Bypass factory amp? Explain. I never had to anything of the sort.
post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:10 PM
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We have a factory amplifier under the center of the dash (infront of the shifter, under the ac controls) that cannot be hooked up using the scorche harness. IDK if someone made one to go thru our factory amp (witch'd be gay & make the audio sound like sh!t) but the direct speaker out harness has to be connected to the aftermarket head unit itself. (provided that you've got atleast 45w / 4chan out laugh.gif )


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post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:21 PM
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also guys what is the original size and make of the front speakers? is it toyota own brand 6.5"?

is it worth getting new speakers?

is infinite a better brand than Alpine series S?

I am looking at getting the infinite with a seperate tweeter speaker

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INFINITY-6-5-6520scs...id=p3286.c0.m14
post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:23 PM
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QUOTE (rasta @ Oct 21, 2008 - 3:21 PM) *
also guys what is the original size and make of the front speakers? is it toyota own brand 6.5"?

is it worth getting new speakers?

is infinite a better brand than Alpine series S?

I am looking at getting the infinite with a seperate tweeter speaker

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INFINITY-6-5-6520scs...id=p3286.c0.m14


Origonal size is a 6.5 in an 8" frame. Read this for a purdy how-to:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...&hl=speaker


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QUOTE (DEATH @ Nov 11, 2008 - 5:40 PM) *
Damn D-Man - most impressive.

QUOTE (99GT @ Nov 14, 2008 - 4:04 PM) *
D-Man's post should be a sticky

QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 4, 2008 - 10:50 AM) *
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post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:45 PM
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QUOTE (rasta @ Oct 21, 2008 - 3:21 PM) *
also guys what is the original size and make of the front speakers? is it toyota own brand 6.5"?

is it worth getting new speakers?

is infinite a better brand than Alpine series S?

I am looking at getting the infinite with a seperate tweeter speaker

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INFINITY-6-5-6520scs...id=p3286.c0.m14


The brand is Fujitsu. Your speakers are probably blown, but even if they were perfect, aftermarket speakers would still be an improvement. I have Type-S all around and I'm hugely happy...I've never heard the Infinity's, but I can vouch for the Alpines and they're very good. It might also depend on the type of music you listen to. The only bad thing I can say about my speakers is that they sound like they distort a little to me, but I listen to everything pretty loudly.

QUOTE (D-Man @ Oct 21, 2008 - 3:10 PM) *
We have a factory amplifier under the center of the dash (infront of the shifter, under the ac controls) that cannot be hooked up using the scorche harness. IDK if someone made one to go thru our factory amp (witch'd be gay & make the audio sound like sh!t) but the direct speaker out harness has to be connected to the aftermarket head unit itself. (provided that you've got atleast 45w / 4chan out laugh.gif )


My head unit is 50x4. So how is this done exactly? I wired mine up according to Crutchfield's directions specific to a '97, so I'm guessing that they account for this?
post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:53 PM
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perhaps. Or perhaps via crutchfields directions they had you wire around your factory amp just like the rest of us have. Unless there was ever a lesser version of a factory stereo than what my vert had in it... then again, i know that us vert guys got hooked up on all kinds of stuff like that... so idfk. laugh.gif

all i know is that if you have a factory amp, you wanna wire around it. biggrin.gif otherwise, you'll be sending in way to much power thru the "INPUT" so the FA would amplify an already ideal/sufficient "OUTPUT" signal, and distort the crap out of it, then bellow that nasty sound out at the same wattage. So in the end, it wouldn't be louder, it'd be distorted.

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Damn D-Man - most impressive.

QUOTE (99GT @ Nov 14, 2008 - 4:04 PM) *
D-Man's post should be a sticky

QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 4, 2008 - 10:50 AM) *
LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts.
post Oct 21, 2008 - 3:56 PM
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OOOOH. So I probably did it the right way then...
post Oct 21, 2008 - 4:01 PM
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i listen to roots reggae (lots of bass) rnb and funky house!!


what about u lot?
post Oct 21, 2008 - 4:15 PM
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Rave, Techno, Industrial and from time to time i'll enjoy some rock / metal and sometimes a good rap or two. But primarily i listen anything you can sling a glowstick to laugh.gif

EDIT: I dislike R&B with a passion. WAYY Too whinny for me. I'm a happy-go-lucky kinda guy rolleyes.gif

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Damn D-Man - most impressive.

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D-Man's post should be a sticky

QUOTE (samir0189 @ Nov 4, 2008 - 10:50 AM) *
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post Oct 21, 2008 - 4:26 PM
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D-man - u r on it!


let me guess u love your clubs! same here.

u go often
post Oct 21, 2008 - 4:44 PM
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I wish they had more of a techno scene here...I miss the rock & dance thing they had going on in EU, here it's always rock & rap.

I listen to a lot of ****, you'd probably be most interest in the reggae. Bob, Stephen, Ziggy, and Damian Marley. Slightly Stoopid. Sublime (reggae-rock), Matisyahu, UB40.

UB40 is bomb.

There's some dance that I love though...old school stuff. "Better off Alone" is probably one of my favorite songs right now.
post Oct 21, 2008 - 4:50 PM
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rick - u r a DON!

UB40 is my fave band, been to like 5 of there concerts and have all 24 albums!

wher r u from?
post Oct 21, 2008 - 4:53 PM
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post Oct 21, 2008 - 7:42 PM
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Installing a head unit is real simple. not sure about the speakers.

As a guy up top said definitely buy an adapter to hook the head unit into the main loom (you dont want to cutting the loom) and use connectors not insulation tape if you have to cut the adapter. Mine just plugged straight in. I would personally cable tie or tape all the cables together once you have finished so that it is tidy and they wont vibrate themselves loose or create rattles.

It is kinda scary how easy it is to remove the head unit from our cars. :S


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QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Oct 21, 2008 - 5:44 PM) *
I wish they had more of a techno scene here...I miss the rock & dance thing they had going on in EU, here it's always rock & rap.

I listen to a lot of ****, you'd probably be most interest in the reggae. Bob, Stephen, Ziggy, and Damian Marley. Slightly Stoopid. Sublime (reggae-rock), Matisyahu, UB40.

UB40 is bomb.

There's some dance that I love though...old school stuff. "Better off Alone" is probably one of my favorite songs right now.


DUDEEE. You listen to Matisyahu! I love that dude (no homo). You're the second person I know that has ever said they listen to that. awesome. I like slightly stoopid too. and UB40 is the bomb.

you are awesome. thumbsup.gif


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post Oct 22, 2008 - 2:42 PM
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QUOTE (samir0189 @ Oct 21, 2008 - 9:13 PM) *
DUDEEE. You listen to Matisyahu! I love that dude (no homo). You're the second person I know that has ever said they listen to that. awesome. I like slightly stoopid too. and UB40 is the bomb.

you are awesome. thumbsup.gif


Thanks man. I was thinking about getting his CD, since I only have King Without A Crown, YOUTH, Jerusalem, Got No Water, Exaltation, and Chop Em Down...

But yeah, he's good as hell.

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