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Hello mates

Has topic says, what is the differents i need to know it =)
Is it better motor or more horse power??

Hope someone can help me =)

This has been covered heaps. try the search button.

They are different generations of the 3sge motor.

This is taken straight from wikipedia;

Gen 3

The third generation 3S-GE was produced from 1994 to 1999. Power output was increased to 177 bhp (132 kW, 180 PS) over the gen 2, while torque figures stayed the same. It received a minor revision in 1996 for emissions (EGR) which reduced power output to 173 bhp (125 kW, 170 PS) @ 7000 rpm.

Gen 4
BEAMS 3S-GE 4th generation engine ("Black Top")
BEAMS 3S-GE 4th generation engine ("Black Top")

The fourth generation 3S-GE, also known as the BEAMS 3S-GE began production in 1997. The first version was equipped with VVT-i and produced 197 bhp (147 kW, 200 PS) @ 7000 rpm. It was available in a few models sold only in Japan - the MR2 G and G-Limited, the Celica ST202 SS-II and SS-III and the Caldina. BEAMS is an acronym which stands for Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System.

In 1998 a second version was released with dual VVT-i (variable timing on both the intake and exhaust cams), titanium valves, battery-backed injectors and a slightly higher compression ratio (11:1 instead of 10.5:1). This engine powered the Altezza RS200 and produced around 207 bhp (154 kW, 210 PS) @ 7600 rpm.

The two variants are easily identifiable by colour. The cam covers on the earlier model are red and on the later model, black. They are often referred to as the "Red Top" and the "Black Top" respectively.

The "Grey Top" BEAMS 3S-GE was an available engine option in the Rav4 in Japan. Even though the valve cover on this engine is black, it is referred to as "Grey Top" to differentiate it from the Dual-VVTi "Black Top" in the Altezza. Power output is 177 bhp (132 kW, 180 PS) @ 6600 rpm.





Where the Gen 3 is the 3sge that is present in the ssII (and ssIII pre 1997 i believe) and the Gen 4 is in the ssIII.

The gen 3 produces around 180hp with the gen 4 around 200hp.

It has more horsepower, i dont know what you mean by "better" i believe they are just as strong as each other.

Edit: Grammer

This post has been edited by parriehunter: Oct 22, 2008 - 3:57 AM

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This post has been edited by CeLiCa_ST: Oct 22, 2008 - 5:46 AM

Thx man

That was the info i needed =)