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I was thinking this over today and thought that it would be a cool discussion to post up. I'm getting a little concerned about the future of engine swaps. It seems like Toyota hasn't been building ANYTHING high-performance in the last few years. I love our Celicas, but they're coming up on 10 years old for the newest '99 model now. 2nd gen 3SGTE engines are minimum 15-16 years old...

I've been looking at the newer models trying to think of what the next batch of engine swapping is going to be. The 7th gen Celica is already out of production and hasn't gotten a whole lot of love. Of course the 2ZZ is a common swap but that engine never really took real well. 3SGTE into a 7th gen is something I'd like to do some more of, but still, the 3S is getting older. I guess the tC is the next platform to look at, but what to swap into it??? There's practically nothing out there for decent Toyota engines, the 2AZ only makes 160hp. I've sort of been looking at the 300hp 2GR-FSE but it's scary... lots of modern electronics to work around, immobilizer, etc.

2ZZ in a Yaris might be interesting...

Discuss!

-Doc

YES!!!! 2zz in a YARIS... When the yaris first came out I was thinking of what swaps would be awesome to do and obviously a 2zz in that little thing.

they still made gen4 3s's up untill 2004 or something.

i think more cylinders might be the only go if 2zz is out of the picture.

over here TRD has released supercharged hiluxs and Aurions (like camry but awsomer )

WHAT??? Thats awesome. I love the new camrys.

I love the TC.....How big of a bay does it have?? Any chance of a smaller Lex V8 going into one? Or a 3S-GTE (cliche'd I know, but I love the motor).

Toyota may not be doing much for the performance world, but they've nailed down cars you can drive every day and their sales reflect that.

TC's just look and feel so much cheaper on the inside than a 6gc

im sure someones gonna try to put a 2jz into a TC if it hasnt already been done...

No way - it's way smaller than ours length wise and not at all setup for a rear drive axle. I've owned all three now - Good idea tho.


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Doc - did you ever confirm whether the tC's tranny will accept a S series motor? It makes a certain amount of sense if the camry tranny is the same and it can take a v6 like ours then maybe...

I'd love to see an LS2 swapped 6gc/rear wheel drive sleeper [replying to Fastbird made me think of it ] but man would that be one hell of a project.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Oct 31, 2008 - 1:18 AM

why has toyota allowed itself to stagnate? it seems like the 90's were the heyday of japanese performance rivalry with the 4g63, 3sgte sr20det mazdas twin turbo rotaries and others duking it out for supremacy. Now the majority have plodded on in duller performance attempts while toyota seems to have detached its balls all together. what gives?

ignore teh existance of the nissan gtr. evos and rex's count but the 2000's wont replace the 90's IMO.

I've heard of the TC converted to 4WD and that it is the same body style or chassic as the Toyota Cadalina or something like that. Read it in the magazine. But a Yaris with at 2ZZ i would like to see.

Doc, you are damn right about the future of Toyota. I've been pondering about that for a while too. Although there are tight swaps for rear wheel drives, not much for front wheel besides a 4ag. Although Toyota is expected to release two top model sport cars, that does not leave it affordable for many which is the lexus supercar and toyota supra replacement. It would be less of an issue if you had a rear wheel drive toyota, many possible options. There are talks about a new celica with a subaru motor but whats up with that? What do you think about the solara v6 swap?

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 31, 2008 - 5:14 AM

i think the v6 swaps should be the next future generation of swaps for small cars,

Well, one thing we can look forward to is the possible coming of a new Toyota sports car, Celica or not. That engine(s) into a 6GC, or a 3S-GE into that machine?

Sorry to burst the bubble, but no new toyota for us.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/28/subaru-...ersion-only-in/

need to expand past just motor swaps.....lets do drive train conversions already

What the ****? That is the most awesome deal and we don't get it. That sucks.

The 3SGTE was built all the way up till 2007 actually, so yeah, we'll have a fresh supply of 3SGTE engines for a long time. But the problem of passing OBD2 emissions in all vehicles for the last 12 model years still exists.

I think you might be right about the V6 engines... I just wish there was something better out there!



It's a pretty big bay, a 3SGTE would be a fairly simple swap overall, and a 1UZ FWD... yeah, that could be done

Oh yeah Toyota is doing fine as a business, I just wish they'd take a little step out of the box for a moment and throw us performance guys something to play with



I'm quite certain that the S-series would bolt up to the tC transmission, yeah.






Fine with me, that's not a Toyota anyway. And besides, it's not even turbo!

I've been pushing the Solora V6 swap for a few years now... yeah... I need to do one soon.

-Doc

That has actually been on my mind also as of late.

i'd like to keep the motor JDM Blacktop 3sge or standard 3sgte + RWD (either ST205 rear or IS300 rear(dunno how close the IS is))

lets see the docs idea concept plan on this

3SGE Blacktop, with the 6-speed RWD Tranny? Oh helz yeah.

-Doc