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post Nov 13, 2008 - 9:32 PM
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1)if i put a 4inch long pipe directly on the turbo with filter is that bad?

2) if i do this and keep the stock bov could i just mount it somewhere else?

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post Nov 13, 2008 - 9:55 PM
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When you say 4 inch long pipe directly on to the turbo, I am assuming the intake pipe connected on the compressor housing. So yes, you can.Since you have a 3rd gen you have no AFM to worry about. I would relocate the battery to the trunk and make that pipe longer and have it towards the fender more so it gets more air. 3" diameter piping that is.

Yes you can vent your BOV. So if you plan on not recirculating the bypass valve into the intake, just keep the bov where it is and have a straight solid intake pipe.


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post Nov 13, 2008 - 9:58 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Nov 13, 2008 - 9:55 PM) *
When you say 4 inch long pipe directly on to the turbo, I am assuming the intake pipe connected on the compressor housing. So yes, you can.Since you have a 3rd gen you have no AFM to worry about. I would relocate the battery to the trunk and make that pipe longer and have it towards the fender more so it gets more air. 3" diameter piping that is.

Yes you can vent your BOV. So if you plan on not recirculating the bypass valve into the intake, just keep the bov where it is and have a straight solid intake pipe.



lol thanx that was easy... now of to do crazy things to my car
post Nov 16, 2008 - 8:27 PM
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Assuming you kept the factory catch can you still need to weld on a fitting to connect it to the intake. And like beccentaur3 said, bring your filter up near the inner fender where the factory air box was installed. You don't just want to have a 4" long (by 3" diameter pipe) with filter coming right off the turbo because you will still be behind the radiator, sucking in all that hot air.


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post Nov 16, 2008 - 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 16, 2008 - 8:27 PM) *
Assuming you kept the factory catch can you still need to weld on a fitting to connect it to the intake. And like beccentaur3 said, bring your filter up near the inner fender where the factory air box was installed. You don't just want to have a 4" long (by 3" diameter pipe) with filter coming right off the turbo because you will still be behind the radiator, sucking in all that hot air.


Yeah I'm moving the battery and running it through the headlight plus to can run 4in diameter pipe with a coupling reducer
post Nov 16, 2008 - 10:44 PM
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Why? Just run 3" diameter piping and you're golden.


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post Nov 16, 2008 - 10:50 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Nov 16, 2008 - 10:44 PM) *
Why? Just run 3" diameter piping and you're golden.


I am running 3 I'm saying you could run 4 in.....if your really wanted to...but with it out the headlight it pretty cool
post Nov 16, 2008 - 10:52 PM
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I guess if you want birds flying into your turbo. I hope you plan on running a filter on that thing.


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post Nov 16, 2008 - 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Nov 16, 2008 - 10:52 PM) *
I guess if you want birds flying into your turbo. I hope you plan on running a filter on that thing.


Lol that would be kinda funny...like that youtube video....but yeah a filter is there...
post Nov 16, 2008 - 11:25 PM
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well then I guess why not use A 4" pipe.


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post Nov 17, 2008 - 5:49 PM
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I am going to be running a 4" intake on my setup, I got all the parts I needed in yesterday. Hux racing has had massive successes with a 4"intake over a 3" intake. So between the added performance, the enhanced/louder turbo whistle (turbo whistle is enhanced with a 4" intake due to more resonating area.....or so I have heard) , the killer look of a massive 4" intake, and Manny's awesome welding skills, how could I pass up the opportunity. thumbsup.gif

Hopefully I can get Dustin (Batman) to go to the dyno with Manny when he runs my car. I would like to see what kind of gains a 4" intake actually has over a 3"intake (if any), because Hux racing has only claimed having bigger gains, but I haven't found any back to back numbers to prove it. After a few runs with my 4" intake, I will see if Dustin will let Manny take a couple runs with his 3" intake on my car for a true back to back comparison.

It would also be nice to see how similar the 2 motors (both GEN3's) are in HP and TRQ at the same boost levels. And then add in the water injection to see how those numbers change, and how AFR's will change. Should be very informative/interesting, I hope he has some free time to kill with Manny when he goes to the dyno, I KNOW he is wondering/curious as to what power he is making.


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post Nov 17, 2008 - 5:56 PM
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 17, 2008 - 5:49 PM) *
I am going to be running a 4" intake on my setup, I got all the parts I needed in yesterday. Hux racing has had massive successes with a 4"intake over a 3" intake. So between the added performance, the enhanced/louder turbo whistle (turbo whistle is enhanced with a 4" intake due to more resonating area.....or so I have heard) , the killer look of a massive 4" intake, and Manny's awesome welding skills, how could I pass up the opportunity. thumbsup.gif

Hopefully I can get Dustin (Batman) to go to the dyno with Manny when he runs my car. I would like to see what kind of gains a 4" intake actually has over a 3"intake (if any), because Hux racing has only claimed having bigger gains, but I haven't found any back to back numbers to prove it. After a few runs with my 4" intake, I will see if Dustin will let Manny take a couple runs with his 3" intake on my car for a true back to back comparison.

It would also be nice to see how similar the 2 motors (both GEN3's) are in HP and TRQ at the same boost levels. And then add in the water injection to see how those numbers change, and how AFR's will change. Should be very informative/interesting, I hope he has some free time to kill with Manny when he goes to the dyno, I KNOW he is wondering/curious as to what power he is making.


im sure dustin will be driving his own car on the dyno..lol
but ya, im quite qurious to see the diffrence between the 2.


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post Nov 17, 2008 - 6:23 PM
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I am too.


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post Nov 17, 2008 - 7:50 PM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 6:56 PM) *
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 17, 2008 - 5:49 PM) *
I am going to be running a 4" intake on my setup, I got all the parts I needed in yesterday. Hux racing has had massive successes with a 4"intake over a 3" intake. So between the added performance, the enhanced/louder turbo whistle (turbo whistle is enhanced with a 4" intake due to more resonating area.....or so I have heard) , the killer look of a massive 4" intake, and Manny's awesome welding skills, how could I pass up the opportunity. thumbsup.gif

Hopefully I can get Dustin (Batman) to go to the dyno with Manny when he runs my car. I would like to see what kind of gains a 4" intake actually has over a 3"intake (if any), because Hux racing has only claimed having bigger gains, but I haven't found any back to back numbers to prove it. After a few runs with my 4" intake, I will see if Dustin will let Manny take a couple runs with his 3" intake on my car for a true back to back comparison.

It would also be nice to see how similar the 2 motors (both GEN3's) are in HP and TRQ at the same boost levels. And then add in the water injection to see how those numbers change, and how AFR's will change. Should be very informative/interesting, I hope he has some free time to kill with Manny when he goes to the dyno, I KNOW he is wondering/curious as to what power he is making.


im sure dustin will be driving his own car on the dyno..lol
but ya, im quite qurious to see the diffrence between the 2.

Oooo can I join the madness?
We can see the drivetrain loss
post Nov 17, 2008 - 8:18 PM
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please post the vids of the dyno if you guys end up doing this.


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95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
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post Nov 17, 2008 - 8:28 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 9:18 PM) *
please post the vids of the dyno if you guys end up doing this.



Well I have to get invited first but yeah sounds good
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QUOTE (pipes @ Nov 17, 2008 - 7:50 PM) *
QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 6:56 PM) *
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 17, 2008 - 5:49 PM) *
I am going to be running a 4" intake on my setup, I got all the parts I needed in yesterday. Hux racing has had massive successes with a 4"intake over a 3" intake. So between the added performance, the enhanced/louder turbo whistle (turbo whistle is enhanced with a 4" intake due to more resonating area.....or so I have heard) , the killer look of a massive 4" intake, and Manny's awesome welding skills, how could I pass up the opportunity. thumbsup.gif

Hopefully I can get Dustin (Batman) to go to the dyno with Manny when he runs my car. I would like to see what kind of gains a 4" intake actually has over a 3"intake (if any), because Hux racing has only claimed having bigger gains, but I haven't found any back to back numbers to prove it. After a few runs with my 4" intake, I will see if Dustin will let Manny take a couple runs with his 3" intake on my car for a true back to back comparison.

It would also be nice to see how similar the 2 motors (both GEN3's) are in HP and TRQ at the same boost levels. And then add in the water injection to see how those numbers change, and how AFR's will change. Should be very informative/interesting, I hope he has some free time to kill with Manny when he goes to the dyno, I KNOW he is wondering/curious as to what power he is making.


im sure dustin will be driving his own car on the dyno..lol
but ya, im quite qurious to see the diffrence between the 2.

Oooo can I join the madness?
We can see the drivetrain loss



it is not a awd dyno.


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post Nov 18, 2008 - 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 18, 2008 - 6:18 AM) *
QUOTE (pipes @ Nov 17, 2008 - 7:50 PM) *
QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 6:56 PM) *
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 17, 2008 - 5:49 PM) *
I am going to be running a 4" intake on my setup, I got all the parts I needed in yesterday. Hux racing has had massive successes with a 4"intake over a 3" intake. So between the added performance, the enhanced/louder turbo whistle (turbo whistle is enhanced with a 4" intake due to more resonating area.....or so I have heard) , the killer look of a massive 4" intake, and Manny's awesome welding skills, how could I pass up the opportunity. thumbsup.gif

Hopefully I can get Dustin (Batman) to go to the dyno with Manny when he runs my car. I would like to see what kind of gains a 4" intake actually has over a 3"intake (if any), because Hux racing has only claimed having bigger gains, but I haven't found any back to back numbers to prove it. After a few runs with my 4" intake, I will see if Dustin will let Manny take a couple runs with his 3" intake on my car for a true back to back comparison.

It would also be nice to see how similar the 2 motors (both GEN3's) are in HP and TRQ at the same boost levels. And then add in the water injection to see how those numbers change, and how AFR's will change. Should be very informative/interesting, I hope he has some free time to kill with Manny when he goes to the dyno, I KNOW he is wondering/curious as to what power he is making.


im sure dustin will be driving his own car on the dyno..lol
but ya, im quite qurious to see the diffrence between the 2.

Oooo can I join the madness?
We can see the drivetrain loss



it is not a awd dyno.

Well there's on down on my end... not sure if you wanna come down this route
post Nov 18, 2008 - 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (pipes @ Nov 18, 2008 - 10:09 AM) *
Well there's on down on my end... not sure if you wanna come down this route


naa, im pretty familiar with my guy, and i like the fact of all my work being tested on the same dyno.
if you do go to your local guy, be sure to bring a disk with you, and ask them to put the run files on them, its awesome to be able to go back and review each one of your runs, and overlay them ect.


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