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post Dec 11, 2008 - 7:11 PM
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im going to do the GT-Four conversion on my 1995 celica GT and want to hear all the complications and also the awesomeness of this conversion and instead of running around the forum im just gonna throw this bait out and let you brilliant minded individuals come to me biggrin.gif and im going to thank you ahead of time........thank you i appreciate it!!!


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post Dec 11, 2008 - 7:57 PM
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I'll tell you there is a sticky for the front end conversion. If you are also doing the AWD transmission, you will need everything going to the rear differential which will most like be a problem with the rarity of parts, the cost of labor and parts, etc. It is more feasible to get the front end swapped and the 3sgte motor as a FWD. Lots of fabrication needed to do a real GT-FOUR conversion.

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post Dec 11, 2008 - 8:22 PM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Dec 11, 2008 - 8:57 PM) *
I'll tell you there is a sticky for the front end conversion. If you are also doing the AWD transmission, you will need everything going to the rear differential which will most like be a problem with the rarity of parts, the cost of labor and parts, etc. It is more feasible to get the front end swapped and the 3sgte motor as a FWD. Lots of fabrication needed to do a real GT-FOUR conversion.



i planned on bying the whole front clip of a gt4 and the rear diff.


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ST204 1995 Celica GT (undergoing GT-Four conversion may 23rd.)
post Dec 11, 2008 - 8:22 PM
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Save yourself the time, the white hairs, and money and be a GT-2 like the rest of us (getting the st205 front conversion and the 3sgte)

And even if you got the front clip and rear diff. with all the components you need, you won't be able to simply bolt it up to your rear frame. You would have to actually purchase the rear clip of an actual gt-4 celica as well as their gas tank is located somewhere else compared to ours which conflicts with the components that needs to be bolted up. Unless you were to fabricate or eliminate ur gas tank and use fuel cells or w/e some other ppl may have done. Just letting you know from the other ppl who've done the AWD conversion, they've spent 10+ thousand on the conversion alone. Look up the threads, there's a few members who have done it.

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post Dec 11, 2008 - 8:53 PM
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QUOTE (_mikeE @ Dec 11, 2008 - 9:22 PM) *
Save yourself the time, the white hairs, and money and be a GT-2 like the rest of us (getting the st205 front conversion and the 3sgte)

And even if you got the front clip and rear diff. with all the components you need, you won't be able to simply bolt it up to your rear frame. You would have to actually purchase the rear clip of an actual gt-4 celica as well as their gas tank is located somewhere else compared to ours which conflicts with the components that needs to be bolted up. Unless you were to fabricate or eliminate ur gas tank and use fuel cells or w/e some other ppl may have done. Just letting you know from the other ppl who've done the AWD conversion, they've spent 10+ thousand on the conversion alone. Look up the threads, there's a few members who have done it.



so the gt4 gas tank wouldnt do it then?


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umm.......kicks ass!

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ST204 1995 Celica GT (undergoing GT-Four conversion may 23rd.)
post Dec 11, 2008 - 9:02 PM
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I think it all depends on how mechanically inclined you are. And how much time and money you can put into it.

I'm planning on doing a complete conversion as well...and the work I've found out i'll have to do is a little on the extreme side.
post Dec 11, 2008 - 9:07 PM
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iam what you would say...(i think) slightly mechanically inclined but my father, who will be helping me quite a bit, is a genius.

This post has been edited by 1Bryce1: Dec 11, 2008 - 9:33 PM


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ST204 1995 Celica GT (undergoing GT-Four conversion may 23rd.)
post Dec 11, 2008 - 11:11 PM
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Sometimes its not about the money....it about trying something new....or getting an experience.....good luck man....other people are doing this conversion as I ype somewhere so why not join the club.....you guys didn't know I was doing it until the end when I gave you guys sneak peeks...but have fun in the end its just a car so don't stress you can always get another one

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post Dec 11, 2008 - 11:18 PM
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how did you do your rear end suspension?
post Dec 12, 2008 - 12:10 AM
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You want too see how it's done? Go to my thread
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56207&hl=

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1995 Toyota Celica Coupe GT 3S-GTE
1994 Toyota Celica Liftback GT-Four (RHD/GT-Four conversion)
1990 Toyota Xcab 1UZ-FE Lexus V8, Solid Axle Swap on 35s geared and locked dual Tcases (Rock Crawler)
1990 Toyota 4Runner 5VZ-FE V6 swap, Solid Axle Swap on 38s (Rock Crawler)
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post Dec 12, 2008 - 2:02 AM
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wow nice. maybe i'll bug ya later for your measurements wink.gif
post Dec 12, 2008 - 6:04 AM
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Then again, sometimes money is not the driver. Sometimes its the learning experience and chance to say I did it. Again, good luck, its always good to be one of the few. Indeed the work will be overwhelming but since you are going this route already, don't let money or time or whatever stop you.


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|Laille/Beatrush|Magnecor|Denso|Royal Purple|Optima|PIAA|PW JDM|Megan Racing|Nitto|
|Work|Greddy|Samco|Project Mu|H&R|Gates|Moog|Rota|Yokohama|Epman|1320|Upgr8
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post Dec 12, 2008 - 3:35 PM
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I was thinking about building a couple of sets of the rear end crossmembers, Would anybody be interested?
I would have to charge $500 for the pair for labor and material.









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1996 Toyota Celica Convertible GT (My 1st Celi,Owned since 2002)
1995 Toyota Celica Coupe GT 3S-GTE
1994 Toyota Celica Liftback GT-Four (RHD/GT-Four conversion)
1990 Toyota Xcab 1UZ-FE Lexus V8, Solid Axle Swap on 35s geared and locked dual Tcases (Rock Crawler)
1990 Toyota 4Runner 5VZ-FE V6 swap, Solid Axle Swap on 38s (Rock Crawler)
1972 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 4X4 Cummins Turbo Diesel (Tow Rig)
1956 Ford F-100 429 / Automatic
1969 Ford Mustang Fastback 429 Tubbed and Caged (Drag Car)
1967 Ford Mustang Fastback 427W / Automatic
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 347 / 5-speed
post Dec 12, 2008 - 6:33 PM
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QUOTE (TheMadScientist @ Dec 12, 2008 - 3:35 PM) *
I was thinking about building a couple of sets of the rear end crossmembers, Would anybody be interested?
I would have to charge $500 for the pair for labor and material.

i would actually love to buy them but were i live jobs are kinda a rarity so...when i get another job (got fired frown.gif
i hate fabricating parts, bc no matter what i always gotta screw something up

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post Dec 15, 2008 - 1:36 AM
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i'd be interested, but shipping would make it very difficult...
post Dec 17, 2008 - 5:53 PM
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nah, fedex ground.

Have you tried if they fit a coupe and vert? or it would be a diff design.


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post Dec 17, 2008 - 6:28 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 17, 2008 - 6:53 PM) *
nah, fedex ground.

Have you tried if they fit a coupe and vert? or it would be a diff design.


I don't see why not...I believe you guys are 3 inches longer but yeah same wheel base and everything

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