 Mrgrapes war with RSX vs celica |
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 Dec 12, 2008 - 11:51 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Dec 22, '06 From Columbia, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%)  |
just get a mazdaspeed 3.
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Dec 13, 2008 - 12:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '07 From SoCal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Dec 12, 2008 - 9:29 PM)  Plain and simply, the K20 has a far better lift system, is an under-tuned motor from the factory, is a bigger motor, and a squared motor. It makes more torque than the average 2.0 liter, makes significantly more horsepower, and is under-tuned to boot (10 whp from a CAI!!!), not to mention in stock trim, can reliably hold revs over 9000 rpms. There aren't any real negative sides to the K20 as a tuning motor... whereas the 2ZZ does. The 2ZZ, you could argue is also under-tuned... but it's not so much under-tuned as it is poorly tuned to make horsepower during lift. That's why guys with standalone computers and piggybacks can make so much more power. In a head to head comparison however, the difference maker is the displacement. The 2ZZ will always make a bit less torque, therefore a bit less horsepower. Also, the 2ZZ still uses a bucket system, which typically isn't as efficient for high revs. High revs is the only way these guys are gonna make power. That being said, I would pick the K20 over the BEAMS easy. Hell, I'd pick the 2ZZ over the BEAMS because the 2ZZ can still be tuned up, while the BEAMS is a highly tuned motor from the factory. The beams does have a nice shiny red valve cover though... damn i didnt know that...i feel like a dummy now...10whp just from a CAI!! damnn! im still leaning towards the s14 right now, but if that doesnt work im def getting an RSX-S! thanks man |
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Dec 13, 2008 - 2:00 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
is this s14 powered by the sr20 or the KA24?
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Dec 13, 2008 - 2:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '08 From Oakland, bay area, California Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
or an RB20 or RB25!
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Dec 13, 2008 - 4:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '08 From Naples, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
S14 has an RB20 IIRC.
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Dec 13, 2008 - 5:24 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '08 From Fort Worth, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
actually it came with a KA24DE I4
RB20 came in R31 and 32 skylines This post has been edited by Akirad1: Dec 13, 2008 - 5:24 PM --------------------  |
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Dec 14, 2008 - 4:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
just get a Ferrari F430
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Dec 14, 2008 - 4:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '08 From south UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Euro and JDM s14 has an SR20 DE(t). 200ps euro and 220 JDM.
The US got that shocking 2.4 thing which goes about as fast as a golf cart! |
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Dec 14, 2008 - 7:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
When I asked him that question I was asking if the car was swapped or not. I know that the US spec s14 came with the KA24 and the JDM silvia came with the sr20
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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Dec 14, 2008 - 7:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '08 From dallas texas Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
mrgrape...your threads make me giggle almost as much as gt4 soldier...i cannot believe parents would buy some kid a fairly new performance model of a car...as kwanza said you prob drive like a kid...parents who give kids cars like that are just asking for trouble...
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Dec 14, 2008 - 10:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '08 From Fort Worth, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
mrgrapes why not just post when you actually got the car instead of the debate of getting one or the other cause you change your mind more than a woman changes clothes.
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Dec 14, 2008 - 10:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '08 From dallas texas Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Dec 14, 2008 - 11:13 PM) mrgrapes why not just post when you actually got the car instead of the debate of getting one or the other cause you change your mind more than a woman changes clothes. what he said x a kajillion |
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Dec 15, 2008 - 12:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '07 From SoCal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Dec 13, 2008 - 7:00 PM) is this s14 powered by the sr20 or the KA24? sr20, the cars got a kouki conversion pwp, done by len higa- lead mechanic for gumball 3000 as well as r and d director of apexi and team member of 02 motorworks so i trust his work. next post will be with my car....keep u guys updated! |
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Dec 15, 2008 - 11:38 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
If your going with nissan, why not just get a new GTR?
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Dec 15, 2008 - 1:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '07 From SoCal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 15, 2008 - 5:38 PM) If your going with nissan, why not just get a new GTR? uhhhh way beyond what i can afford |
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Dec 15, 2008 - 2:55 PM
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QUOTE (mrgrape @ Dec 15, 2008 - 10:12 AM) QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 15, 2008 - 5:38 PM) If your going with nissan, why not just get a new GTR? uhhhh way beyond what i can afford you said your next post would be with your car..... then you posted again.... without a car. You're a liar mrgrape. You poop mouth. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Dec 15, 2008 - 3:05 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
can we just lock this BS up?
of all the stupid threads that get locked on this site, why isnt' this? |
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Dec 15, 2008 - 5:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '06 From NB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
QUOTE (dustin15brown @ Dec 14, 2008 - 5:33 PM) just get a Ferrari F430 word 
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Dec 15, 2008 - 5:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '08 From Fort Worth, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
nah he should deff get an Enzo or a R8
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Dec 15, 2008 - 6:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '08 From Naples, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
He wouldn't be worth an R8...now, plenty of stupid people have smashed up Enzo's, so that could be doable.
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