Would it be feaseable |
Would it be feaseable |
May 5, 2009 - 12:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '07 From Montreal, QC, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
http://cgi.ebay.ca/JDM-95-OEM-Celica-GT4-T...p3286.m20.l1116
Would it be possible to buy this kit which includes front clip and rear clip and install the rear onto a ST204 GT-S ? Would the rear subframe and gearbox differential fit onto my current frame (if i remove the gaz tank) ? Or it would require major work to the chassis? And what about the driveshaft? I searched on the database but mostly found front end conversion... and the only owner of a converted to AWD here that i've found is celiman05 and he havent logged in since august 2008! This post has been edited by reko: May 5, 2009 - 2:09 PM -------------------- |
May 5, 2009 - 12:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '06 From Greensburg,PA Currently Offline Reputation: 27 (94%) |
several members have already done it
This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: May 5, 2009 - 12:42 PM -------------------- Breaking Axles...
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May 5, 2009 - 1:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '07 From Montreal, QC, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
several members have already done it Good so it is feasable... but does it require anything? I mean is there anything that needs to be welded? cut? or anything else? I found this: no it does not just bolt up... the rear end of a gt4 (floor pan ect.) is different than a usdm celica But what are the major differences? Will i have to cut the floor and put the one from the rear clip or what? This post has been edited by reko: May 5, 2009 - 2:00 PM -------------------- |
May 5, 2009 - 2:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '04 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
im not completely certain but i know that it requires a great amount of welding and fabricating. you have to weld in the rear subframe as it will not just bolt in. which means you need to fabricate some sort of support for the subframe. I know you have to get rid of your stock tank to make room. I saw some guy cut out his spare tire well and get a fuel cell in the trunk.
Not feasable i think unless you do all the work yourself and trust your skill 100%. everything has to line up correctly and the welds have to be strong or it will not be safe to use. Also, if it doesnt line up, it will not ride straight. hope this helps. edit: Here is a thread another member has started regarding this build. It might either encourage you, or make you throw the idea off a cliff as i did AWD conversion This post has been edited by eggman40: May 5, 2009 - 2:14 PM |
May 5, 2009 - 3:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '07 From Montreal, QC, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Yeah i found the thread like an hour after, thanks....
Seems too much of a pain in the ass for my skills... Can close sorry for the hassle! -------------------- |
May 5, 2009 - 8:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
you could cut the rear trunk flooring and weld the st205 one in. this way you wouldn't have to fabricate your own subframe adapters like what the maddscientist did. i have pics of someone doing just that.
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May 5, 2009 - 11:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 9, '06 From Ma Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
If someone is going to do an AWD swap, this is the "set" to buy, that's a pretty good price and should include just about everything you need.
I can't say for sure, because I'm not too familiar with the 6th gen chassis, but depending how that rear part was cut, you could just cut out your rear floorpan and weld this in, you would then have all the mounting points and everything there for you. Not an easy job, but no FWD to AWD conversion is. -------------------- |
May 6, 2009 - 9:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
If someone is going to do an AWD swap, this is the "set" to buy, that's a pretty good price and should include just about everything you need. I can't say for sure, because I'm not too familiar with the 6th gen chassis, but depending how that rear part was cut, you could just cut out your rear floorpan and weld this in, you would then have all the mounting points and everything there for you. Not an easy job, but no FWD to AWD conversion is. totally Agree. I'd much rather cut and weld the floor pane than fab up a couple cross members Sorry for the Quality of typing.I'm learning how to "type" on a tablet PC -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
May 6, 2009 - 7:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
you could cut the rear trunk flooring and weld the st205 one in. this way you wouldn't have to fabricate your own subframe adapters like what the maddscientist did. i have pics of someone doing just that. would you mind posting the pictures ? that would be really interesting to see. -------------------- |
May 7, 2009 - 8:07 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
btw, this project was completed... -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
May 7, 2009 - 8:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
so he basically cutted at the welding points and re welded on his, that's some great project and definately worth looking into.
" IF " you can weld properly or get someone to do it for you, this is great way of taking this project. -------------------- |
May 7, 2009 - 8:53 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
that is without a doubt the best way of doing it.
jim and i have talked about that alot stevenson, just a matter of having the right parts, and someone who knows what they are doing. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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May 7, 2009 - 9:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
^ F@#k that! -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 7, 2009 - 9:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '07 From Montreal, QC, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
damn never thought of doing this. Seems way better to me i got to say ! But is it strong enough? I mean... isnt there a possibility that it would sort of brake due to the weight or force applied to the chassis (because of the rear transfer case)? I'll really be looking forward into this...
But what happened to the rear where the license plate and tail lights, bumper and so on mounts? Do you have other pics? They could be really usefull I understand where you did the cuts on the front and rear but what about both sides... near rocker panels and wheel wells This post has been edited by reko: May 7, 2009 - 9:31 AM -------------------- |
May 7, 2009 - 4:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
the sides were cut because the gt-four has different bracing holding the strut towers... and since the struts are essentially part of the rear suspension and sub-frame, it was a good idea to have the gt-four rear floor panel cut including the strut towers, instead of just having the flooring cut (like in the rpmgarage's ebay auction).
the back was also cut off the gt-four because it's different from the st204/st202/at200. the st205 rear has a shallower hatch due to the gas tank being right beneath it and the rear drivetrain/subframe right infront of the gastank. imo, this is the easiest possible way to convert to AWD while keeping a close match to the st205 specs.. just use oem st205 parts (brakelines, gastank, etc etc) without having to customize a lot of things yourself. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
May 7, 2009 - 5:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From boston MA Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
sometimes i wonder with you guys am i just chopped liver? ive done this conversion and drive my car everyday.... fast slow over bumps through the air with no problems.... i mean as far as battle tested i think im your guy or i could be wrong woh well... do it another conversion would be cool
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May 7, 2009 - 5:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 29, '07 From Quebec, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i would not do this, this is illegal, insurance company won't pay for crash and if you get caught with a loud exhaust, you ll not pass inspection when they'll see that
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May 7, 2009 - 5:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From boston MA Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
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May 7, 2009 - 6:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '08 From Bergenfield Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (78%) |
^ F@#k that! x2....AHHHH HELLLLL NO! I give A LOT of credit to the kid for trying this, is most certainly isn't for the weak hearted.....but IMO there are much better ways of doing this. CONGRATS TO THE PERSON WHO TRIED THIS!!!! --------------------
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May 7, 2009 - 6:22 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
this mimics the factory in that it uses all the factory weld points to attach all the panels.
easier ways? yes. better, no. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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