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post Jul 28, 2009 - 8:10 AM
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16x7.5 is the same size as my st205 oem wheels, but I think the st205 calipers wont clear your 7th gens spokes.

Anyhow, they take a 215/50R16 tyre at that 7.5" width (205's for 7's), I used to use Bridgestone Potenza GIII's but they phased out that range and they don't have that size in their new Potenza Adrenaline range so I go with the closest size 225/50R16. Just some info if you use Bridgestone tyres, if not disregard this and get the 215's in whatever brand of rubber you use.


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post Jul 28, 2009 - 8:12 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Jul 28, 2009 - 4:03 PM) *
anyway the specs of the rims are 16x7.5" 5stud, I even get some toyota wheel nuts biggrin.gif
(I heard some 7GC rims where 16x6.5" or something)

Really? 7.5" Mine are 6.5" What colour will you powercoat them? For mine im thinking white.


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post Jul 28, 2009 - 2:04 PM
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You don't have to powdercoat them, you can rattle can them.


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post Jul 29, 2009 - 1:45 AM
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16x7.5 is the same size as my st205 oem wheels, but I think the st205 calipers wont clear your 7th gens spokes.

Anyhow, they take a 215/50R16 tyre at that 7.5" width (205's for 7's), I used to use Bridgestone Potenza GIII's but they phased out that range and they don't have that size in their new Potenza Adrenaline range so I go with the closest size 225/50R16. Just some info if you use Bridgestone tyres, if not disregard this and get the 215's in whatever brand of rubber you use.

lol yeah I really should have checked to see if they'ed clear them, atleast they aren't 15" anymore laugh.gif I ran Dunlop Direzza DZ101, great tyres even in wet

list of their fitment http://www.dunlop.co.nz/popup_tyrespecs.aspx?tyreID=154


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Really? 7.5" Mine are 6.5" What colour will you powercoat them? For mine im thinking white.

yours who'd look nice as white, i dunno if i'll paint them now depending on fitment (thinking ahead to gt4 brakes swap, but they'll do for the meantime) although on that topic I did find some GT4 Braided brakelines for NZ$190
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These are W.O.F standard and do not require a cert.
They are DOT approved FMVSS 106 Specified and TUV rated ISO9002
The kits include the finest quality hose, which improves performance, eliminates spongy pedal feel, and provides a superior resistance to corrosion. Hose end fittings are zinc plated steel as standard.
They are ready to fit straight onto your car.
Benefits of Goodridge Hoses:
Up to 66% less expansion than stock hoses
Will not fade due to heat build up
Reduced pedal travel
Faster braking power and improved feel
A clear vinyl cover over the braided stainless enhancing the appearance of the brake lines, providing abrasion protection.

you want to get a set delusionz?


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You don't have to powdercoat them, you can rattle can them.

umm I might pass

This post has been edited by Rusty: Aug 7, 2009 - 2:53 AM


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post Jul 29, 2009 - 4:46 AM
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I saw those on trademe, would love it but at this stage any spare 200 bucks will be spent on a new radiator with an aluminum top (mines got a crack near the filler cap) or getting my wastegate repaired (it's overboostin) frown.gif

Braided brake lines are good though, I'd recommend the upgrade.


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post Sep 17, 2009 - 5:59 PM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Jul 8, 2009 - 10:35 AM) *
Btw do you reckon the _ONLY_ difference about SS-II and SS-III is the superstrut suspension? I thought there was a hell of alot more than that, and SS-II was pretty much SS-I with 3S-GE?

Or in other words, an SS-III with coilovers is simply no better than a lowered SS-II?

Because I thought LSD & 2 pot brakes also pertained to SS-III, but you reckon you've got it too.

My SS-III has the LSD but does not have 2 pot, just rather large single pots


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post Sep 18, 2009 - 1:09 AM
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SS-II and SS-III: the front are 2 pot (2 on the inside with a slide), where as the GT4 are 4 pot (2 on each side)
the rear are 1 pot (1pot on the inside with a slide) the GT4 rears are 2pot (1 pot on ech side)



UPDATE: not a lot the brakes are just sitting there at the moment, have Clint keeping an eye for parts for me, so hopefully will get lucky there

looking into coilovers at the moment.


also on another note the tyres (KUMHO's which came with them) I have on at the moment suck, no grip and they are pretty new aswell.

Update 2 on the brakes
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...9769&st=100

well apart from the expensive part(wink.gif) I've ordered you see in my signature, I've ordered some more stuff:
16401-SP030 TRD sports radiator cap
90915-SP000 TRD oil filter
16340-SP030 TRD sports thermostat
and a couple of other replacement parts I need

This post has been edited by Rusty: Oct 12, 2009 - 3:33 PM


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post Oct 13, 2009 - 11:08 PM
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Let me know how the TRD thermostat goes - Better get yourself 3 bottles of 1L concentrate Toyota LL coolant tongue.gif

Do a flush with the garden hose with the heater turned on while u have the thermostat housing off -- be sure you work fast, my battery went flat while doing this LOL.

I was told not to get the TRD thermostat on a daily driver, just for race use (pre-warmed engine & continuous Full throttle). The OEM thermostat runs the engine at correct operating temperatures, TRD part is 10 degrees lower.

Also don't know about that TRD radiator cap either, the stock cap is 0.9 bar (takes 0.9 bar of pressure for the spring to open and release overflow) whereas the TRD part is 1.2 bar?? Afaik this part is for having an uprated water pump and uprated cooling parts (aluminum top tank in particular).

The TRD oil filter should be sweet though.


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post Oct 13, 2009 - 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Jul 7, 2009 - 11:49 PM) *
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your car is hot and really nice. i would like to make my Celica like that someday. nothing to crazy or flashy either, but still stylish and unique! great great job! gotta love new zealand too! do you know the orthodontist business "Top Gums"?


yeah thats what I like about this aero kit its not OTT (over the top) just smooth and clean, yeah NZ is great, should come over and see the sights? true gt4's here and there (right delusionz biggrin.gif)
umm haven't heard of those guys, whats your connection with them if anything??


i would love to come visit NZ. and yeah, i know the guy who owns the place haha. the longbottoms. great great family.


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post Oct 13, 2009 - 11:22 PM
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Let me know how the TRD thermostat goes - Better get yourself 3 bottles of 1L concentrate Toyota LL coolant tongue.gif

Do a flush with the garden hose with the heater turned on while u have the thermostat housing off -- be sure you work fast, my battery went flat while doing this LOL.

I was told not to get the TRD thermostat on a daily driver, just for race use (pre-warmed engine & continuous Full throttle). The OEM thermostat runs the engine at correct operating temperatures, TRD part is 10 degrees lower.

Also don't know about that TRD radiator cap either, the stock cap is 0.9 bar (takes 0.9 bar of pressure for the spring to open and release overflow) whereas the TRD part is 1.2 bar?? Afaik this part is for having an uprated water pump and uprated cooling parts (aluminum top tank in particular).

The TRD oil filter should be sweet though.

lol, I could just see that happening

who told you about that?
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By reducing the valve temperature by about 10 to 15ーC compared with that of a standard thermostat, the TRD sports thermostat increases coolant circulation and reduces performance bottlenecks caused by engine heat, to bring out the best in engine performance. (Maintains valve temperature of 71ーC.)


Upping the valve opening pressure of the pressure regulator on the radiator cap to allow higher radiator pressure increases the boiling point of the coolant, reduces bubbles, improves cooling, and generally maximizes the cooling performance of the radiator. We increased the valve opening pressure of the TRD radiator caps to 127 kpa (1.3 kg/cm2) and 147 kpa (1.5 kg/cm2). Thus, another full-fledged design that arose from racing car development makes its appearance.


replacemnt TRD oil filter wink.gif


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post Oct 15, 2009 - 2:53 AM
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right at the moment i'm finally made a start on my cold airbox. so working with cardboard to sort out the shape (the battery, fusebox and loom around that area are staying there so I have to work around them) Will have to get some padding in the area to make sure it doesn't rub or rattle on anything.

But i'll need to change to a cone shape air filter, since I'll run out of room with my HKS filter, works out alright since I haven't changed the filter (oops) new filter for it, then onto my brother's EP82.


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post Oct 17, 2009 - 10:26 PM
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Hey rusty, have you installed the gt4 brakes? If you have does the 7gen rims still clear it?


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post Oct 18, 2009 - 1:01 AM
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nope not yet sorry, still a bit uncertain about the brakes however. the backs clear the wheels with out the use of spacers (however the rear will have the stink sunk in look) fronts a big no. would need big spacers, no expert but 15mm spacer?

also on another note these parts arrived replacement parts, TRD sports radiator cap & TRD oil filter, ready for my next oil change (comes with a sweet sticker saying when your next change is due etc thumbsup.gif) other stuff should be here in a couple of weeks

also took my celica on my local track again. I noticed a big difference between stock suspension setup and my current one (springs and F&R strutbraces). however there is still loads of bodyroll and understeer (so wont be needing a front swaybar anytime soon) manage to shave about +2sec off previous time


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 12:52 AM
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not much of an update, more of an un-update. reading into the GT4 brake swap and talking to a local vehicle certifier (since they WILL have to be certified here in NZ) due to the work involved..................I will not be able to get a cert, as it would be deemed unsafe. (due to the cutting of the caliper)


also you may have noticed the text in my signature keeps changing (reread: oh wait I've alreay told you it has) so hopefully in december (all going to plan) I should be able to tell you all what I've been up to. smile.gif


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 1:58 AM
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why not just get the GT4 wheel hub, and run with that...I mean, you do have the superstrut suspension right? At least with those you'd be able to run the calipers and such.


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 2:12 AM
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nope mines not a SS-II superstrut, and the GT4 wheel hub (as far as I know) wont fit mine, however I've heard you can swap parts over from the GT4 to a SS-II and SS-III superstrut, so your running the same suspension components & brakes as a a GT4 (front part anyway)


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 2:17 AM
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Thats silly tho, cert laws. Want to sell the gt4 brake set later on down the track?


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 2:36 AM
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depends I might try and sell them in NZ, hopefully make enough money to buy upgraded pads slotted rotors and SS lines. shipping overseas will be expensive, its about 50KG's


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QUOTE (Rusty @ Nov 24, 2009 - 3:12 AM) *
nope mines not a SS-II superstrut, and the GT4 wheel hub (as far as I know) wont fit mine, however I've heard you can swap parts over from the GT4 to a SS-II and SS-III superstrut, so your running the same suspension components & brakes as a a GT4 (front part anyway)


Yup your right rusty. Ive had to run the SS-III hub for a few months until i got my hands on a real GT4 hub...but anywho, sucks that you might end up having to sell your rotors...oh and i never gave you props man. I mean, your partaking in a clean as build, and your dedication is noteworthy...Gl with it all man, and i hope it comes out as good as it has so far!


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 3:29 AM
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Don't give up on it man, Surely there should be a way to direct swap them.

Someone's just telling you crap, I don't see why it should be illegal to have higher option brakes installed post-factory, Besides they say Celica on them.

Surely there must be a way to get them to fit just like OEM?


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