Wheel Offset Guide, Unsure about proper offset? Look here first. |
Wheel Offset Guide, Unsure about proper offset? Look here first. |
Jul 29, 2009 - 8:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
we need to relook the offsets and widths again because even 7.5" with a 32 offset is still tucked in and my drop is 3.something inch drop. does anyone have a 9 or 9.5 inch wheel deep dish or staggered style preferred like a rwd car? Id like to see that too. I want that for my future setyup. -------------------- |
Jul 29, 2009 - 10:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Your wheels should tuck under the fender - otherwise your fender would destroy the tire, or they would stick out and would require a stupid amount of camber to get them to fit.
If you think you can go out more, go buy a 5mm spacer. You can go up to 8mm before you will need to think about getting extended studs. So your options are a 3mm spacer (+29), 5mm (+27) or 8mm (+24). All of which will probably require you to roll your fenders or raise your car up (or both). -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jul 29, 2009 - 12:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
IMO, you could MAYBE squeeze a 9"-9.5" wheel in the back, but I just don't see it happening in the front without hitting something like the suspension or the fender. a 9.5" ET35 wheel vs. a 8" ET35 wheel will extend 19mm (an inch is 25.4mm) outward, and extend 19mm toward the suspension. The wheel will definately stick out past the fender (in the front, it may stick out a little in the back too) and it may also hit the shock tower.
I honestly don't understand the point of putting a wheel that wide on there, this car isn't a 240sx... If you want it to have a RWD deep dish look to it, just get a lower offset. for example 18x8 ET32 in the front, and 18x8 ET22 in the back. And pick a wheel design with a lip. Some wheels with lower offsets just angle the spokes so the spokes are still towards the front of the wheel, if that makes sense? rolling the fenders will probably still be necessary. one more thing, you may notice a lot of these cars with flush and wide wheels are running skinny tires and stretching them onto the wheels. I think this can make the wheel appear wider than it is, so maybe consider going with like a 205/45/18 or something. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Jul 29, 2009 - 1:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
They're not stretching the tires to make the wheels look bigger, they do it because otherwise the fender would hit the tire. Stretched tires look bad on anything other than Euro cars - like a nice MKII vw GTi.
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Jul 29, 2009 - 2:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
No, they still look bad. Granted, not as terrible as on other cars, but I hate that look.
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Jul 29, 2009 - 2:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Drool
You can't say that because the tires are stretched that you don't like this. This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Jul 29, 2009 - 2:14 PM -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jul 29, 2009 - 4:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 8, '07 From United States Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
If it wasnt raining like a crazy I would go do a photoshoot of my car.
However, you will have to go with my word for now. 17x8.5 +31 running 215/45 up front. I could fit a 17x9 or 9.5 up front. I just dont want to hassle with testing right now. 17x9.5 +23 running 235/45 in rear. (Flush as hell, fender roll needed) Camber is at 0 both front and rear. I am on Tein S-Techs right now. Will be swapping to K-sports in the next month to get rid of my fender gap. This post has been edited by Harold_Fastwaker: Jul 29, 2009 - 5:29 PM -------------------- |
Jul 29, 2009 - 9:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
^ Any more shots?
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Jul 29, 2009 - 10:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 8, '07 From United States Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
^ Any more shots? I am going to do a shoot tomorrow with it so long as it does not rain again. So I will post up a new thread in the multimedia section. -------------------- |
Oct 5, 2009 - 5:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i know this is old... but would a 18 x 8 work better with a 37 offset or a 25 offset ? can anyone help me with this ? would a 19 x 8.5 be beter witha 45 offset ? helppp
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Oct 5, 2009 - 5:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
+45 is a no no.
37 would be a safe bet, but 25 would be hella flush. My vote is +25. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Oct 6, 2009 - 4:11 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
+25 for sure
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Oct 6, 2009 - 4:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 8, '07 From United States Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
8.5 wide et25 in the front will be close to flush. But it will fall short in the rear. 8.5 in the rear needs et10.
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Oct 6, 2009 - 4:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
yeah but will 18x 8 .. +25 offset even fit on the celia ???? like if i order them will they fit and not come out too far ?
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Oct 6, 2009 - 5:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 29, '09 From Lake Ariel, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
If it wasnt raining like a crazy I would go do a photoshoot of my car. However, you will have to go with my word for now. 17x8.5 +31 running 215/45 up front. I could fit a 17x9 or 9.5 up front. I just dont want to hassle with testing right now. 17x9.5 +23 running 235/45 in rear. (Flush as hell, fender roll needed) Camber is at 0 both front and rear. I am on Tein S-Techs right now. Will be swapping to K-sports in the next month to get rid of my fender gap. do you think i would need a fender roll if i have 9.5 35 offset in the rear? -------------------- Representing the Convertible Crew since 2008 |
Oct 6, 2009 - 5:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
SoundSlut -
Yeah they'll fit. You will probably want to roll your fenders, but aren't you on air ride? You might not have to then. Like Harold said (BTW - favorite user ever. Whole wealth of info on fitment) an 8.5" wide wheel at +25 would be close to flush, and will fit fine in the rear. I'm going with 16x9 +25 wheels and on paper they're going to fit perfectly with my fenders rolled flat. Freddy - There was a guy from the Netherlands (I think) that hasn't been on in a while, but he had a 9.5" +35 wheel and he said he had to do some fender rolling, but otherwise he was fine. This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Oct 6, 2009 - 5:16 PM -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Oct 6, 2009 - 5:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
25 at 8.5 yes but +25 at 8 will be fine too then ? mainly becuz i am going to go with the 18"
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Oct 6, 2009 - 5:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
25 at 8.5 yes but +25 at 8 will be fine too then ? mainly becuz i am going to go with the 18" You'll have 6mm more clearance on the inside between the rim and the strut, as well as sit 6mm more inside the fender with an 8" wide wheel than an 8.5" wide wheel at a +25 offset. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Oct 6, 2009 - 5:38 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
25 at 8.5 yes but +25 at 8 will be fine too then ? mainly becuz i am going to go with the 18" You'll have 6mm more clearance on the inside between the rim and the strut, as well as sit 6mm more inside the fender with an 8" wide wheel than an 8.5" wide wheel at a +25 offset. so basically a 18 x 8 25 offset will fit and look good? or flush for that matter -------------------- |
Oct 6, 2009 - 5:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Hold your horses people.
One thing that everyone forgets when talking about offset is that it is relative to the width of the wheel. 25mm on an 8 inch rim could be TOTALLY different than 25mm on another width of rim. That being said, 25mm on an 8 inch rim is not a good idea for a lowered vehicle. The lower the offset number on the same width rim, the further it will stick out of the wheel well... From the measurements I was given by slowrider and jgreening a few years ago 40mm is recommended for lowered vehicles. 25mm will stick out almost an inch further and you'll almost certainly have clearance issues with the rear fender. I doubt you'll want to take a risk with your paint job trying to roll your fenders to get them to clear... Someone mentioned air ride as well... How much larger/smaller are the bags compared to the normal spring/strut combo? If they're larger this is all a moot point and I'd recommend trying some wheels on before making a purchase. -------------------- Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete... |
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