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> Toyo proxey 4's suck in the snow..., anyone else?
post Dec 14, 2009 - 9:46 PM
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....soon as the grooves are filled with snow your driving with slicks.... these tires ARE HORRIBLE... all season my ass
post Dec 14, 2009 - 10:45 PM
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good to know!

i never encountered snow... but i rained recently and i would like to say my nexen n5000 did a good job with approx 6k miles on it.



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post Dec 14, 2009 - 10:54 PM
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yeah, the proxies 4 aren't great tires. all the subaru guys i've talked to that had them hated them and a couple years back i remember reading either car and driver or motortrend, but they rated kuhmo and hankook tires over the toyos. you can say that they would not be on my list of tire options. you may want to take a look at the bf goodrich traction t/a tires. i've used them to drive up to montana in the snow and i use them down here for rallyx in the dirt/mud. good price and good performance. i won't say they are the best tire in the snow, but for a non snow tire, they do ok. my recommendation would be for you to score an extra set of wheels and grab some winterforce snow tires. the winterforce tires will run you around $60 each in 15" sizes from tirerack and are a great tire.
post Dec 15, 2009 - 12:37 AM
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im winterizing my celi due to this... driving the G37 until april biggrin.gif
post Dec 15, 2009 - 2:18 AM
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This should be in the suspension/handling/braking forum laugh.gif . Also, everyone is spelling Proxes wrong.

How bad is the snow up there right now?


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post Dec 15, 2009 - 2:57 AM
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QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Dec 15, 2009 - 2:18 AM) *
This should be in the suspension/handling/braking forum laugh.gif . Also, everyone is spelling Proxes wrong.

How bad is the snow up there right now?


thats cause we don't care enough about these tires to even check the spelling of them...lol
post Dec 15, 2009 - 3:05 AM
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QUOTE (windowlicker @ Dec 14, 2009 - 11:57 PM) *
QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Dec 15, 2009 - 2:18 AM) *
This should be in the suspension/handling/braking forum laugh.gif . Also, everyone is spelling Proxes wrong.

How bad is the snow up there right now?


thats cause we don't care enough about these tires to even check the spelling of them...lol


I guess you don't care much about them kuhmo tires eithers. laugh.gif


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post Dec 15, 2009 - 3:18 AM
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not really and i'm about brain dead tonight, but i can't sleep.

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post Dec 15, 2009 - 3:23 AM
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QUOTE (windowlicker @ Dec 15, 2009 - 12:18 AM) *
not really and i'm about brain dead tonight, but i can't sleep.


haha I'm just kidding, but I agree that the BF goodrich traction t/a are good tires. They are pretty beefy. My car is basically meant for dry flat areas with no gravel only. Stupid Direzzas..


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post Dec 15, 2009 - 3:37 AM
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QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Dec 15, 2009 - 3:23 AM) *
QUOTE (windowlicker @ Dec 15, 2009 - 12:18 AM) *
not really and i'm about brain dead tonight, but i can't sleep.


haha I'm just kidding, but I agree that the BF goodrich traction t/a are good tires. They are pretty beefy. My car is basically meant for dry flat areas with no gravel only. Stupid Direzzas..


i like the traction t/a's for what i use them for. i really like the michelins i have on my tc wheels. the ride is sooooooooooooo much nicer. highly recommend michelins to anyone that can afford them. right now i have the pilot sport ps2s on the front when i go to the canyons and pilot primacys on the front for daily driving. both are fairly grippy tires, but the ps2's are by far more grippy. reason i have two different models of michelins on the car is because i snagged them from work for free. they were tires that were gonna get recycled because customers got new tires. usually what happens is that sometimes customers will buy all 4 new tires at once and the rear tires are the only ones that are really worn out. the pilot primacy's have like 7/32 left on them as well as the ps2's, but the ps2's have a little more wear on the outside edges. not bad, but looks like the car they were on had alignment issues. can't complain about free.
post Dec 15, 2009 - 3:42 AM
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QUOTE (windowlicker @ Dec 15, 2009 - 12:37 AM) *
QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Dec 15, 2009 - 3:23 AM) *
QUOTE (windowlicker @ Dec 15, 2009 - 12:18 AM) *
not really and i'm about brain dead tonight, but i can't sleep.


haha I'm just kidding, but I agree that the BF goodrich traction t/a are good tires. They are pretty beefy. My car is basically meant for dry flat areas with no gravel only. Stupid Direzzas..


i like the traction t/a's for what i use them for. i really like the michelins i have on my tc wheels. the ride is sooooooooooooo much nicer. highly recommend michelins to anyone that can afford them. right now i have the pilot sport ps2s on the front when i go to the canyons and pilot primacys on the front for daily driving. both are fairly grippy tires, but the ps2's are by far more grippy. reason i have two different models of michelins on the car is because i snagged them from work for free. they were tires that were gonna get recycled because customers got new tires. usually what happens is that sometimes customers will buy all 4 new tires at once and the rear tires are the only ones that are really worn out. the pilot primacy's have like 7/32 left on them as well as the ps2's, but the ps2's have a little more wear on the outside edges. not bad, but looks like the car they were on had alignment issues. can't complain about free.


Free is always good smile.gif. I try to snag tires from work too, but it's hard to find the right tire size that will fit on my rim. But luckily the new 2010 Prius come with 17x7.5" rims wink.gif. Could use a good set of commuting tires. The new special edition tC comes with the toyo proxes 4 from the factory now. I wouldn't mind grabbing a set of them if they were free.


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post Dec 15, 2009 - 1:37 PM
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seriously, i've heard enough bad things about the proxes, i would more than likely pass them up even if they were free. same would go with the bf goodrich g force kdw's. those came stock on my srt4 and they were the worst tire i've owned. i literally had the tread chunk out the size of dimes all the way to the nylon cord after doing a normal drive through the canyons. hell the traction t/a's never did that. if i were you derrick, i would pick up a spare set of wheel and keep those work's looking nice while you're just driving your daily commute.
post Dec 19, 2009 - 1:58 AM
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post Dec 19, 2009 - 2:35 AM
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what's snow???????

laugh.gif laugh.gif sucky deals......... kindasad.gif


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post Dec 19, 2009 - 6:03 PM
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approx 2" in the tri-state area last night (ohio/indi/ky) and i was driving my brothers '00 prelude w/proxy 4's and yea not the greatest... but his LSD helped a lot.


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post Dec 19, 2009 - 7:36 PM
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I've got Yokohama s.Drives all season, they're not so great in snow either. All seasons really aren't meant for snow. That's why I'm actually sitting in America's Tires right now, having a set of Hankook iPikes put on as I write this. Supposed to be really great winter tires, I guess I'll see. BIG thanks to the member on here local to me for selling them to me for basically nothing! (Thanks again brthrurik!) biggrin.gif

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post Dec 21, 2009 - 1:33 AM
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Dec 19, 2009 - 7:36 PM) *
I've got Yokohama s.Drives all season, they're not so great in snow either. All seasons really aren't meant for snow. That's why I'm actually sitting in America's Tires right now, having a set of Hankook iPikes put on as I write this. Supposed to be really great winter tires, I guess I'll see. BIG thanks to the member on here local to me for selling them to me for basically nothing! (Thanks again brthrurik!) biggrin.gif


from what i've heard, yeah the winter i pikes are a pretty decent winter tire. quite a few rallyx guys use them in the dirt/mud as well and like them.
post Dec 21, 2009 - 9:39 AM
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QUOTE (windowlicker @ Dec 21, 2009 - 2:33 AM) *
QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Dec 19, 2009 - 7:36 PM) *
I've got Yokohama s.Drives all season, they're not so great in snow either. All seasons really aren't meant for snow. That's why I'm actually sitting in America's Tires right now, having a set of Hankook iPikes put on as I write this. Supposed to be really great winter tires, I guess I'll see. BIG thanks to the member on here local to me for selling them to me for basically nothing! (Thanks again brthrurik!) biggrin.gif


from what i've heard, yeah the winter i pikes are a pretty decent winter tire. quite a few rallyx guys use them in the dirt/mud as well and like them.


I drove my Grand AM GT on proxes4 and ive driven worse things in the snow. The V shaped tread pattern did NOT help the car get started in the snow, but it wasnt bad stopping. It didnt pull side to side too bad on highways either. Really the biggest downfall was the starting up...

But that's a comparison to what Ive driven that was on A/S tires. Now after driving the celica with snow tires, Id never go without them.

FYI... On my wrx I am running Dunlop Wintersport M3 tires. They are amazing in the snow and better on dry pavement than the stock RE-92s until it gets above 50 outside. There are a few better rated Snow/Ice tires, but these kept some decent dry performance as well. They handle the upstate NY snow like a champ.
post Dec 21, 2009 - 11:05 AM
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aha anythings better than RE-92's, terrible tyre.
post Dec 21, 2009 - 11:48 AM
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I have had great luck in the snow on Continental ContiSport Contact all seasons. Have them on my WRX and now on my MR2. They do very well in snow... when I'm sliding around in my MR2 I know its because of the drivetrain configuration and not my tires.


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