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post Dec 29, 2009 - 9:01 PM
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QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 29, 2009 - 7:39 PM) *
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^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.

And Smaay I know that a 2zz swap is only a pipe dream. I tried to delete this post, but I found out that I couldn't so this topic just became an open forum about the 2zz.


twin charging is not uncommon anymore, there is a member on this forum with a twn charged 2zz on a 7th gen GT (his name is..... er?)


You can't supercharge a 2zz in the GT-S, and I don't see why anyone would spend the money for the swap into a GT.

I think you can super and Turbo a 1zz, but I personally enjoy a Turbo'd 2zz better wink.gif.


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post Dec 29, 2009 - 9:47 PM
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QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 10:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Dec 29, 2009 - 7:39 PM) *
QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 8:32 PM) *
^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.

And Smaay I know that a 2zz swap is only a pipe dream. I tried to delete this post, but I found out that I couldn't so this topic just became an open forum about the 2zz.


twin charging is not uncommon anymore, there is a member on this forum with a twn charged 2zz on a 7th gen GT (his name is..... er?)


You can't supercharge a 2zz in the GT-S, and I don't see why anyone would spend the money for the swap into a GT.

I think you can super and Turbo a 1zz, but I personally enjoy a Turbo'd 2zz better wink.gif.



u cant supercharge the 2zz? Lol, did u miss my previous post? they put it in the exige, and yes, u can:

post Dec 29, 2009 - 9:48 PM
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^haha, learn something new everyday. I was told by my brother that you couldn't do that. After finishing some quick research, I realise that he is full of ****. I love him, but he is a worse lier then me.

My bad yo wink.gif.

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post Jan 2, 2010 - 10:15 AM
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a redtop beams is a far better engine than the 2zz, in a car of the same weight the beams will leave the 2zz behind, also an aftermarket ecu will give you 220bhp at the fly from a beams, plus an 8000rpm rev limit, good luck to any 2zz trying to match that without cams etc laugh.gif call me biast but i've owned both, the weight difference isnt a problem either as long as you remember to put the right size tyres on your car.

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post Jan 2, 2010 - 11:35 AM
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yeah but an aftermarket ecu for the beams is pricey, 3000 usd


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post Jan 2, 2010 - 1:29 PM
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QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 4:32 PM) *
^ There is some guy on YouTube who was crazy enough to supercharge and Turbo his 2zz Lotus. You are very correct Mstoochn.


I know, i built part of it. here is a picture of the twin charged 2ZZ in my 7th gen








QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 29, 2009 - 6:01 PM) *
You can't supercharge a 2zz in the GT-S, and I don't see why anyone would spend the money for the swap into a GT.

I think you can super and Turbo a 1zz, but I personally enjoy a Turbo'd 2zz better wink.gif.



see above post.

there are 2 retail kits for the 2ZZ in a celica. Blitz and Greddy. and there will soon be a 3rd. see above


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post Jan 2, 2010 - 1:53 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 2, 2010 - 11:35 AM) *
yeah but an aftermarket ecu for the beams is pricey, 3000 usd


theres more options than people think, the cheapest is you can use a 1zz-fe power-fc with some very basic wiring changes.
post Jan 2, 2010 - 6:05 PM
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QUOTE (Edophus @ Jan 2, 2010 - 11:15 AM) *
a redtop beams is a far better engine than the 2zz, in a car of the same weight the beams will leave the 2zz behind, also an aftermarket ecu will give you 220bhp at the fly from a beams, plus an 8000rpm rev limit, good luck to any 2zz trying to match that without cams etc laugh.gif call me biast but i've owned both, the weight difference isnt a problem either as long as you remember to put the right size tyres on your car.


haha oh yes! thats right Edophus you tell them. Toyota should of stuck with a 2zz-ge 2.0 ltr. then that would have been an even better engine. They should of forgot about lift (honda engineers have already have that mastered) and made another 200 hp 2.0 ltr engine with the same amount of power as the redtop beams!


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post Jan 2, 2010 - 7:10 PM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 2, 2010 - 6:05 PM) *
haha oh yes! thats right Edophus you tell them. Toyota should of stuck with a 2zz-ge 2.0 ltr. then that would have been an even better engine. They should of forgot about lift (honda engineers have already have that mastered) and made another 200 hp 2.0 ltr engine with the same amount of power as the redtop beams!


indeed the problem with the 2zz is that is it is based on the 1zz, which in turn is based on the old A series like the 4age, i'm talking in terms of bore spacing etc, thats its limiting factor when it comes to na tuning, the beams will always be able to rev higher with more capacity which more than outweighs its weight disadvantageas it can run lesser duration cams to gain the same peak power, over the same rev range, but the lesser duration cams means it puts out more torque than its extra capacity would suggest. An extra 30-40 ft-lb of torque over the same rev range is why the beams owns the 2zz.

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