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post Jun 27, 2010 - 8:04 AM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Jun 26, 2010 - 11:00 PM) *
nevermind just looked it up, 7M-GE injectors. they are all over Ebay, so ill try a set of those. the only problem with getting bigger injectors is that need management for idle.

i think i still have a set of the lime top 315s from my early setup, if you want em. smile.gif
i can understand why you'd be inclined to do it with the FMU and the 5s injectors to keep it simple and keep the price down, but IMO thats setting up for disaster for the kids who buy the kit and get a little testy with the boost. whats the rate on the FMU your using?
another way you could try it would be a 2 bar map, and say..290 or so cc injectors.
kinda like what the mr2 guys used to call the "magic triangle" (ct-26, 315cc injectors, 2 bar map, no tuning)
if you sized the turbo right, and found the right size injector for the 7a, that would be prolly cheaper in the long run, and more reliable.

on the good side, i like the way everything looks in the bay, im used to seeing steffs tiny T2052, so the T3 looks HUGE in comparison..lol looking at the wheel sizes, they looked to be matched decently well (60 trim compressor wheel, 68 trim exhaust wheel), so even though they are a on the larger side for a lower reving motor like the 7a, it should still be decently responsive.
get this thing strapped down to the rollers man!


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post Jun 28, 2010 - 9:47 AM
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we did some more tweaking over the weekend. Pressure i do like your idea of the 315's and 3S-GTE MAP sensor. right now im testing teh waters back on the stock injectors and the FMU. the 5S-FE injectors ran a little too rich with the FMU (which is 12:1) the big difference is when i installed the walboro 255. it wasnt the volume that we were lacking but the pressure. once the pressure increased things started to look better. ill have more updates tonight.


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post Jun 28, 2010 - 5:50 PM
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I have a few extra 315 cc injectors as well. Im looking to throw a T25 on my 7A here soon, but im waiting on an AEM FIC and an exhaust manifold. Keep us posted on the progress of the build. Im interested on how well itll run with the injectors and your trim of compressor wheel.
post Jun 29, 2010 - 8:53 AM
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well the stock 7A injectors are just waay too small. gonna try a few different ideas. will post updates soon


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post Jun 29, 2010 - 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (zonz540 @ Jun 28, 2010 - 4:50 PM) *
I have a few extra 315 cc injectors as well. Im looking to throw a T25 on my 7A here soon, but im waiting on an AEM FIC and an exhaust manifold. Keep us posted on the progress of the build. Im interested on how well itll run with the injectors and your trim of compressor wheel.


Sorry, i meant the 315 cc's
post Jul 27, 2010 - 10:24 AM
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Ive got the lime green tops in my car N/A (dont ask why, still having trouble putting turbo on). Once the 02s heat up idea isnt too bad with them in. Although you do get 26mpg highway, and 19 city. Once i get my manifold turbo will go on. Ill let you guys know.
And btw, I sourced all my parts, and ive barely spent more then 1200 so far, thats everything but a manifold

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post Jul 27, 2010 - 11:53 AM
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Big difference in mileage...
post Jul 28, 2010 - 2:13 PM
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yea, stock is 34, 28. but thats what i get for going from 180cc to 315cc injectors. just got my manifold ordered. Once i get it i have to go some welding for wastegate and o2 senser. Then putting everything on and the mpg should be about the same or a little better. Im wondering what i should do for tuning. I dont wanna spend $400 for a stand alone like the emanage.
post Jul 28, 2010 - 10:34 PM
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I found an AEM F/IC for $200 locally. I hear they do the job well. You can get them for ~$300 on ebay.
Have you considered a wideband? That would also help you to know where you stand with those injectors and the rest of the kit.
post Jul 29, 2010 - 12:05 AM
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yes i highly recommend the AEM UEGO


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post Jul 29, 2010 - 1:10 AM
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Ill have to look into it. This is the first time ive ever touched a turbo, and pretty much the first time ive started messing with fuel. So i guess i have to do a little research other then reading peoples threads. Ill look into it. I know i need a wideband, reason i didnt get one around is there expensive and funds are very slim, and people on here never seem to use them. Ill also have to look further into that, and maybe a 2bar map sensor as well.
post Jul 29, 2010 - 1:58 AM
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Theyre only $170 if you find the right source. Itll save you a lot of hassles when youre trying to tune your car. Paying for a shop to tune it can get to be expensive. Although, you could see if you could hook up with Dr. Tweak. Hes within a couple of hours from you and has done some amazing things with Celis. Hed prob get you a decent price and a perfectly tuned 7AFTE.
post Jul 29, 2010 - 3:27 PM
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Will this turbo kit also fit to a european 7afe?
I know for example the european 7a doesn't have egr and has a different exhaust manifold (it has no catalyser) it's only got a cat under the car.
post Jul 29, 2010 - 4:14 PM
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The bolt patern should be the same, think about it, two different paterns would cost toyota money. As far as the cat, your version should just have a down pipe instead of the cat into the cat under the car. Should be the same thing. Cant imagin toyota wasting money like that to have two different heads.
post Jul 30, 2010 - 9:45 AM
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yeah im 99% sure it will fit.


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post Aug 16, 2010 - 2:15 PM
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well i put on the green injectors and only 3 of the 6 work frown.gif i sent PMs to the parties that offered some. so update will be posted once i get it running


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post Aug 17, 2010 - 5:44 AM
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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum. Found the forum using google trying to find parts for my 7A-FE engine smile.gif

I found this thread very interesting, As i'm also thinking of turbocharging my 1.8 liter engine.

What are done to the engine? Compression-ratio lowered or new rods or anything like that? If i'm gonna turbocharge my engine i don't feel like putting a whole lot of work in it since it's my going-to-work car.
Never heard anything about how strong 7A-FE engines are, I'm thinking about 200-250HP and the car is a Carina E wagon wink.gif
Got any pic on only the exhaust manifold?
post Aug 17, 2010 - 9:17 AM
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Update: So i managed to get a set of injectors out of an older MKIII Supra (yellow top 295cc injectors) manny i still want yours, everythign is running pretty smooth! im out test driving, making about 5psi and then fwwapp, the turbo shelled itself frown.gif so im ordering a new one today, no more off the shelf turbos, im gettign a new one from now on.

to Stener: 200HP should be fairly easy on a stock block. 250 might be pushing it but i dont know enough about the strength of teh internals. i can tell you this, the 1ZZ-FE rods in the MR2 and 7th gen celica can handle 350 HP and the the 7A rods are much beefier. the pistons also look to be a bit stronger, so take that for what its worth.


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post Aug 17, 2010 - 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jun 24, 2010 - 10:29 AM) *
Well, I think demand will depend on price. I for one am still interested in doing a 7A-FTE setup, pending that I find all the parts at a reasonable price to make the expense worthwhile versus an engine swap.

So, in other words, sell a good kit and I'll buy it.


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post Aug 17, 2010 - 3:46 PM
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Arent the green tops alot easier to find?


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