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Invisible 20" rims with tires. Those are as light as air and cost as much as you can think.

Lightweight wheels will give you better acceleration.
Engine mods will give you better acceleration.
Spending 4k on the engine will give you better acceleration than spending 4k on wheels.

Lightweight wheels will give you better braking.
Upgrading your brakes will give you better braking.
Spending 4k on your brakes will give you better braking than spending 4k on wheels.

Lightweight wheels will give you better handling.
Upgrading your suspension will give you better handling.
Spending 4k on suspension will give you better handling than spending 4k on wheels.

Lightweight wheels are a slight improvement in 3 areas.
Spending the money elsewhere will give a major improvement in 1 area. What are you really looking for?

I think you are missing a little context..... no one is talking about spending $4K on wheels, engine, or suspension. Further - in the realm of the 24 Hours of Lemons Race - Wheels and Tires are not bounded by the $500 cost limit of the vehicle, engine and suspension modifications are. So - In the racing / autocross world in which this car lives, spending ~ $160 a corner on wheels (tires are a different story) for some noticable improvement is not an unrealistic goal, especially on a car with 109 HP 15 years ago.

And yes standard disclaimer applies here: nothing can beat investing in the driver.... yatta yatta yatta......

Lols that's not the point of the topic...and a balanced car is often funnier (but maybe slower on track) than an highly one way upgraded car...

Anyways, as someone already told the O.Z. Allegerita are surely a good choise, its are not to expansive ( i think, here in Italy you can have them in 17x8j for 800-850€) and light enought for the cost...An advice, if you see momo alloy ask for the real weight on the official site. I bought 4 momo REV 17x7.5j, the seller told me its were 6.5kg each and its are 9kg each, preaty heavy...

Have you tried Rota? not too expansive, not to heavy, surely nice looking, if i'm right its are work replicas, don't remember atm...

type r vs celica.... trying to reduce as much weight as possible.

$2,200 on rims and tires is alot but not even close to $4,000.

the rota wheels will fit our car but most of them have really high offset and all of them come in 17" rims. yes they do look better than OZ racing.

these are the rims i will probably get in the future. SSR Type F 16x7 with +38 offset and weigh only 11.6 pounds. talk about light and offset is at factory specs. maybe add a 5 mm spacer on the back tires are your set. I also think they come in white if you buy them from nengun performance. also lighter than rpf1 and look slightly better wouldnt you say...

Didn't read anything about lemons, Just read the many articles you posted about wheels sizes and weights.

Whats funny about a balanced car?

its burried in here somewhere.....




Tasty wheels but @ $400 - yikes - The Motegi - Traklite are about $250 a wheel and are of comparable weight (I did not exam offset)

This post has been edited by qatar11: Nov 6, 2009 - 8:06 AM

woot
my wheel
Enkei Bortex 17''
16.1 lbs
600$ like new but used


This post has been edited by chode: Nov 13, 2009 - 8:32 AM

OZ Racing Ultraleggera 16x7 with +35 offset at 14.5 pounds


OZ Racing Ultra HT White 16x7 with +35 offset at 15.5 pounds


This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 6, 2010 - 8:34 PM

Since he bumped this thread,

5zigen 17s FN01R-C

I think there about 14lbs ?

I got a set for 800 used no curb rash and spent about 500 on yoko tires.

So there pretty affordable. I think new they go for about 1500 a set. Which really isnt bad.

gatar11 did you ever watch the episode of top gear where they hopped up a avantine to go faster then an EVo. top gear faster then an EVo

I personally think upgrading wheels to 17" will hurt your performance. IMO I would get smaller wheels with lower profile tires. Since your not allowed to run big brake kits and your not upgrading the horsepower, your better off with 14" wheels with some super sticky low profile tires. OEM 14" or the 15" GT rims will be a big plus in giving the brakes ventilation and reliability. When your racing sticky tires the hard cornering will chew through them.

15" haha please. we've all already established that 16x7 rims with 215/45R16 tires will be the best setup. period!!!

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 21, 2010 - 2:53 AM

i LOVE these. im actually saving up to get these in either orange or red for my white celica

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseU...&sort=Brand

17 X 7--PCD 4 X 100---+45 Offset-- KINGS KG5 Lites , 215 x 45 x 17 ZETUM rubber (Kuhmo s other make) , total wieght 17.3 kgs ea or just over a kilo more than the factory 15 X 7 alloys with 205 X 55 X 15 rubber. weighing in at 16.2kgs ea.(with well worn rubber.)

Cost of new wheels and new rubber balanced and fitted including new hex drive and security wheelnuts- AUS$1225.00.





Imageshack clic image to enlarge.

I got a set of these for DIRT cheap



3 wheels are in great condition, one is not, I already found a fourth wheel so I'm considering getting the other one fixed to keep as a spare.

15.5 lbs each wheels

17 x 8 ET35

I am not sure if I ever mentioned going to 17" we started with 14" American Racing Wheels... but we couldn't find a tire we liked... it was either a crap tire... or some exotic track day rubber that violated the tread wear rules. We then went with 15x6 steelies because they came with a brand new set of Michelins Pilots. We acquired another set of steelies (so 8 total) and tried some General UHP tires.

Just an Update... after a couple races - we noticed everyone is running Falken Azenis RT615K's or equivalent. Out of sheer disregard for what would fit on the steel wheels I bought 6 of them in the 205/55R15 size. To find wheels that would better fit the tires we bought (from the celica community) 15x7 OEM GT Alloy Wheels. I have no idea what they weigh but the car is extremely well hooked up now...

The Azenis are a great tire. Very sticky but very easily ruined... we flat spotted 2 sets of fronts after some emergency braking and I think for all intents and purposes they are ruined.

Can you elaborate on this? Or is Manny going to have to close another thread due to my Negative and Skeptical nature?!

Your right I don't have anything to back that up. I guess it just really depends on your car setup

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 23, 2011 - 2:55 AM

16" wheels will give you the best weight to tire wall ratio.

What this means is a 14" rim will have thick monster truck rubber tire where as a larger 18" rim will have thin rubber band tire to keep the wheel diameter the same.

In general the best set up for our celica is a 16" rim. The 16" rim are relatively light, and they give you an aggressive thin tire side wall while keeping wheel diameter the same.

However when your racing in 24 hour LeMons, and your not allowed to invest in horse power or brakes. The only advantage you can gain is in reducing weight, especially rotating mass.

If you have not notice, a smaller rims will always be lighter then a larger rim. That is why most hybrid cars come with ugly 14" rims. There are some cases where that is not true, but that involves using exotic carbon fiber. For qatar11 event that is not feasible.

There is also an added bonus of using a smaller rims and thin tires as it lowering your gearing. On most race tracks the Celica will never reach top speed, so lowering your gear ratio my be beneficial. The last bonus of using smaller rims are cheaper tires.

So are 16" rims the best for our celica? yes
Is it the best rim for racing. no...

see I told you guys that 16" was best for our cars. thanks hanyo i just bought yokohama 205/45R16 tires. they are sitting in my garage right now. Can't wait for the install in 2 weeks