How difficult do you think it would be to get from Fwd to Rwd? |
How difficult do you think it would be to get from Fwd to Rwd? |
Sep 26, 2010 - 8:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
5th gens were fwd
best of my luck to you man if you're really going to do the RWD conversion! despite what everyone else says, I think it would be a great project. I would do it myself if I had the money because it would be a one of a kind for the 6th gens. I've noticed that when someone goes to do something that has never been done, people are always against that idea, but when someone accomplishes something that no one else has done, then people want to do it what that person did. |
Sep 26, 2010 - 9:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '08 From Blainville Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
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Sep 26, 2010 - 9:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '08 From Blainville Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
5th gens were fwd best of my luck to you man if you're really going to do the RWD conversion! despite what everyone else says, I think it would be a great project. I would do it myself if I had the money because it would be a one of a kind for the 6th gens. I've noticed that when someone goes to do something that has never been done, people are always against that idea, but when someone accomplishes something that no one else has done, then people want to do it what that person did. You know what? That's EXACTLY what went through my mind 1 minute before reading your post. And that's what I plan to do. But I will never do it in any time soon. I'm only 19 and have a very SMALL budget since I'm still at school. But later I will have the abilities to do everything on my car and I will also have the means to do it too. But for the moment, I'd like to have more power so I thought of the 3s-gte, but man.. I don't think this power in a Fwd car is worth it but it would still be better than the 5s-fe there already is in it. So I think that for the moment I'll just keep it very clean and put money into it so that it looks good. And then, only then, when I'll have the knowledge and means to do it, I will surely do the Rwd convertion, and then 3s-gte . I mean, I could have the 1st Rwd 6g celica Until then, I'll keep daydreaming lol This post has been edited by dudeofchaos: Sep 26, 2010 - 9:47 PM |
Sep 27, 2010 - 9:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 16, '07 From covington, KY Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (77%) |
Sorry to tell u this but no u won't have thw first rwd 6th gen it has been dun before. I am also currently doing my own with the alteza 3sge black top for my high performance grad project.
This post has been edited by hatchy_gt-s: Sep 27, 2010 - 9:11 AM |
Sep 27, 2010 - 9:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '03 From Springfield, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Best thing to do is get a rwd donor that has or uses the same engine family that you want to use.
Also it probably won't be net as hard as everyone makes it out to be. You just need to be practical about how everything is set up and keep it all simple. Of course this is coming from the guy that is building a 70's civic to be a rwd motorcycle powered road racer with a space frame..... -------------------- Coming in 2010 full paintjob - new wheels - modified body - new interior - engine build- marriage |
Sep 27, 2010 - 9:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
ok if you really want to go RWD its not that hard. get a full ST205 clip, take the tranny to a fabricator and have them weld the ports for the front axles closed. fab up the supports for the rear end and install that. thats about it, you are done. but why go through all that when you can have AWD.
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Sep 27, 2010 - 9:56 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '05 From ST PAUL, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Sorry to tell u this but no u won't have thw first rwd 6th gen it has been dun before. I am also currently doing my own with the alteza 3sge black top for my high performance grad project. yes what hatchy is planning on doing is correct. if i wasnt planning on selling my car i would have done the same thing...the I.S. beams motor with tranny and using the gt4 rear diff. the only difficult part would be deciding which steering rack to use...im not totally sure but i think the I.S. one would work but it will require some custom work. motor mounts for the motor would have to be custom, and the drive shaft would need to be custom and then the firewall would need to be cut. unless you use a tube front frame. (HARDTARGET has done this before but he used a tube front end and im not tottaly sure but his was made for track use.) -------------------- |
Sep 28, 2010 - 9:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '08 From Blainville Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Oh, too bad if I'm not the 1st one then. I'll still be freakin proud haha
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Sep 28, 2010 - 10:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '10 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Ehh, don't start planning stuff out that far ahead. Stuff, life, and goals change so quickly... No offense but after a few years of the same car, you'll probably realize there are better ways to spend your money, car related or otherwise.
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Sep 28, 2010 - 5:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '08 From Blainville Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Ehh, don't start planning stuff out that far ahead. Stuff, life, and goals change so quickly... No offense but after a few years of the same car, you'll probably realize there are better ways to spend your money, car related or otherwise. Maybe. But I seriously don't think I'm going to change any time soon. The only thing I have in life is my car so there's nothing else I could spend my money into. Of course my life will change in the futur, but I doubt it will change enoght in a few years to change my mind. But I understand what you say, it's all true. Let's just hope I won't go this way |
Sep 28, 2010 - 8:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 10, '09 From Louisiana Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
You shall change your mind ! haha jk, good luck bro, and what said about you could get the RWD black top BEAMS and use the GT4 rear diff that would prolly work out well.
Talk to Keith at RPMGarage, hes pretty cool and easy to work with. He's sourcing some S15 parts for me right now, so im sure he could find that setup easily. |
Sep 29, 2010 - 6:00 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '10 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Ehh, don't start planning stuff out that far ahead. Stuff, life, and goals change so quickly... No offense but after a few years of the same car, you'll probably realize there are better ways to spend your money, car related or otherwise. Maybe. But I seriously don't think I'm going to change any time soon. The only thing I have in life is my car so there's nothing else I could spend my money into. Of course my life will change in the futur, but I doubt it will change enoght in a few years to change my mind. But I understand what you say, it's all true. Let's just hope I won't go this way I just know my last year of college, I went from having a supercharged mustang with a built rear. Was going to make it a 8 second car. Then I was buying a Viper GTS when I graduated, then I was buying a C6Z06, what end up happening was I sold my mustang, bought an rx7 and did a 2 year build on it. -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
-95 Celica GT Rally Car - 3sge/AWD -10 F150 Always buying stock wheels... PM me if interested in selling. |
Sep 29, 2010 - 2:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '08 From Blainville Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
You shall change your mind ! haha jk, good luck bro, and what said about you could get the RWD black top BEAMS and use the GT4 rear diff that would prolly work out well. Talk to Keith at RPMGarage, hes pretty cool and easy to work with. He's sourcing some S15 parts for me right now, so im sure he could find that setup easily. Why go with BEAMS engine instead of 3s-gte? |
Sep 29, 2010 - 4:41 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
The 3S-GE Blacktop BEAMS came in the Toyota Altezza and is already configured for RWD. It's mounted longitudinally, not transverse. The 3S-GTE is transverse mounted. So the Blacktop BEAMS is a better choice for a RWD only setup as far as mounting is concerned.
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Sep 29, 2010 - 4:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 10, '09 From Louisiana Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Exactly what he said above.
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Sep 29, 2010 - 6:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
probably be better off buying a coroll ae86 and doing an 3sge blacktop in their, and then get the weight ration perfectly at 50/50. since the 3sge is heavier than the 4age. im not putting you down or anything just a suggestion
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Sep 29, 2010 - 7:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
also with the beams, you could turbo it, it wouldn't be that hard at all.
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Sep 29, 2010 - 7:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
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Sep 29, 2010 - 9:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
also with the beams, you could turbo it, it wouldn't be that hard at all. no! haha yes I agree N/A all the way check out this video, this is why I love N/A engines!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmP-xUK6-E -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Sep 29, 2010 - 9:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
so i guess i shouldn't have mentioned that lol...
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