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post Jun 9, 2009 - 6:17 AM
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The holes closer to the end of the bar can be used if you want more oversteer, but if you don't want as much oversteer, use the inside holes that are closer to the middle of the bar.


isn't it the other way around? holes closer to the end should be the softest setting and provide more understeer, where as the holes further from the end provides a stiffer setting and give more oversteer.


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post Jun 9, 2009 - 8:28 AM
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no, its a leverage thing. by decreasing the length of the sway bar, it can effectively transmit more torsional force. making it a stiffer ride. Since our cars love the understeer, it would make sense to go with the closest holes to attempt to counter this.

*Edited for correctness

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post Jun 9, 2009 - 8:46 AM
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not necessarily, you don't want too much oversteer with a front wheel drive as it can't be that easy to control, and you don't want to be on an open road where dry lifting off creates oversteer, imagine that in the wet.
post Jun 9, 2009 - 9:29 AM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 7, 2009 - 12:16 AM) *
on the stiffer setting there is more of a nuetral feel to the car with out any understeer.

this is what I was getting at. not necessarily creating oversteer, just countering the existing understeer.

Also, after looking at Bonzai's post again, I think i'm completely backwards on this. I'll edit my above post to avoid confusion.


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post Jun 9, 2009 - 12:44 PM
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ok guys i think your getting all confused. what azain advanced said was correct. And that was the same thing that i was saying. So to clerify things :

-The picture that i posted that is the setting that you want to keep it on. The stiffer setting will create a nuetral feel to the cars handling with a slight bit of oversteer, you can bairly feel the oversteer.

-holes at the end of the sway bar (softer setting will create understeer) like i described in my post.


don't even bother with putting the sway bar links at the softer setting it will create understeer

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post Jun 9, 2009 - 4:40 PM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 8, 2009 - 11:36 PM) *
haha woops i missed that. oh well im just adding more information of how the different setting react to the cars handling. I'm the first to elaborate in detail how it feels from the different rear sway bar settings. but ya thanks for pointing that out missed that. tongue.gif

btw update your pics on your profile pics. it says you have 96 + bumper with sideskirts and those pics you have are of your old set up.

I posted what I read in the "how to" section I have my sway bars off right now they're getting repainted I'll post up pics with my twosrus endlinks when its done. thumbsup.gif


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post Sep 26, 2010 - 10:01 PM
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I measured the front sway bars at 24mm and the rear sway bar at 22mm is that the correct thickness for them???


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post Sep 26, 2010 - 10:08 PM
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^ as in stock? if you mean stock that would be wrong, but if its Suspension techniques i think your right.


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post Sep 27, 2010 - 1:41 AM
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QUOTE (whatthe @ Sep 26, 2010 - 10:08 PM) *
^ as in stock? if you mean stock that would be wrong, but if its Suspension techniques i think your right.


yes thats what I mean I measured my Suspension Technique Sway Bars last night and thats the measurement I got. I just wanted confirmation from another member


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post Oct 6, 2010 - 7:15 PM
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Someone was trying to tell me that I should get the rear sway bar, and it should at least be 28- 34 mm thick. You guys know these cars, what is optimal for autox'ing?


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post Oct 6, 2010 - 7:54 PM
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lol thats pretty fkn thick, heavier muscle cars and supras etc tend to have pretty thick aftermarket sway bars but for our cars I know whiteline have 20mm for rear but anymore than 24mm would be pointless.
post Oct 6, 2010 - 8:00 PM
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Suspension Technique sway bars :

Front = 24mm
Rear = 22mm


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post Oct 6, 2010 - 9:08 PM
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Gotcha. Thanks!


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post Oct 7, 2010 - 10:34 PM
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such a pitty that the only company C-One that makes an aftermarket sway bar for the SuperStrut Suspension only make them in 18mm. it should be thicker right?!

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post Oct 7, 2010 - 10:44 PM
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Has anyone use the C-One sway bars I was thinking of getting a set for the GT4


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post Oct 7, 2010 - 11:01 PM
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GT-FOURpl is the only one I've actually seen with one (though he's just got the car running again I think)


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post Oct 8, 2010 - 7:47 AM
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brands just for bragging rights, 19mm is plenty thick for the rear if its adjustable and/or you have shorter/stiffer end links, remember that size isn't the most important thing, the difference between soft setting and hard setting is ALOT.

I have a 20mm at the rear on hard setting and a stock 20mm at the front and you can definitely feel the oversteer, it almost feels as if its in need of a thicker one at the front on hard as it feels it rolls too much up front.

Also, even if it is a badly made sway bar Id say it would snap off where the end link bolts up before the sway bar would snap but that would be pretty extreme.

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post Oct 8, 2010 - 7:42 PM
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Front Sway Bar from C-One is only 18mm. I'm saying its small because if you compare it to the suspension technique front sway bar at 24mm and an aftermarket sway bar for the Integra Type R at 25mm its considerably smaller wouldn't you say

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post Oct 8, 2010 - 8:55 PM
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you can't really compare sway bars by their thicknesses alone..
if anyone is really curious and willing to ask these companies and find out what type of metal is used in making these sway bars, i can find out which one is better.


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post Oct 8, 2010 - 10:06 PM
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^ Thats right. What metal they use and if its hollow or filled.


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