SWAY BARS, Suspension techniques |
SWAY BARS, Suspension techniques |
Jun 9, 2009 - 6:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE The holes closer to the end of the bar can be used if you want more oversteer, but if you don't want as much oversteer, use the inside holes that are closer to the middle of the bar. isn't it the other way around? holes closer to the end should be the softest setting and provide more understeer, where as the holes further from the end provides a stiffer setting and give more oversteer. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Jun 9, 2009 - 8:28 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '08 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
*Edited for correctness This post has been edited by jimmykay: Jun 9, 2009 - 9:31 AM -------------------- '99 Celica GT - Sold
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Jun 9, 2009 - 8:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not necessarily, you don't want too much oversteer with a front wheel drive as it can't be that easy to control, and you don't want to be on an open road where dry lifting off creates oversteer, imagine that in the wet.
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Jun 9, 2009 - 9:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '08 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
on the stiffer setting there is more of a nuetral feel to the car with out any understeer. this is what I was getting at. not necessarily creating oversteer, just countering the existing understeer. Also, after looking at Bonzai's post again, I think i'm completely backwards on this. I'll edit my above post to avoid confusion. -------------------- '99 Celica GT - Sold
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Jun 9, 2009 - 12:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
ok guys i think your getting all confused. what azain advanced said was correct. And that was the same thing that i was saying. So to clerify things :
-The picture that i posted that is the setting that you want to keep it on. The stiffer setting will create a nuetral feel to the cars handling with a slight bit of oversteer, you can bairly feel the oversteer. -holes at the end of the sway bar (softer setting will create understeer) like i described in my post. don't even bother with putting the sway bar links at the softer setting it will create understeer This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jun 9, 2009 - 12:58 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Jun 9, 2009 - 4:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 25, '06 From MN Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
haha woops i missed that. oh well im just adding more information of how the different setting react to the cars handling. I'm the first to elaborate in detail how it feels from the different rear sway bar settings. but ya thanks for pointing that out missed that. btw update your pics on your profile pics. it says you have 96 + bumper with sideskirts and those pics you have are of your old set up. I posted what I read in the "how to" section I have my sway bars off right now they're getting repainted I'll post up pics with my twosrus endlinks when its done. -------------------- "To Protect And To Serve The Wealthy" -POLICE
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
I measured the front sway bars at 24mm and the rear sway bar at 22mm is that the correct thickness for them???
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
^ as in stock? if you mean stock that would be wrong, but if its Suspension techniques i think your right.
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Sep 27, 2010 - 1:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
^ as in stock? if you mean stock that would be wrong, but if its Suspension techniques i think your right. yes thats what I mean I measured my Suspension Technique Sway Bars last night and thats the measurement I got. I just wanted confirmation from another member -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Oct 6, 2010 - 7:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Someone was trying to tell me that I should get the rear sway bar, and it should at least be 28- 34 mm thick. You guys know these cars, what is optimal for autox'ing?
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Oct 6, 2010 - 7:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol thats pretty fkn thick, heavier muscle cars and supras etc tend to have pretty thick aftermarket sway bars but for our cars I know whiteline have 20mm for rear but anymore than 24mm would be pointless.
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Oct 6, 2010 - 8:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Suspension Technique sway bars :
Front = 24mm Rear = 22mm -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Oct 6, 2010 - 9:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Gotcha. Thanks!
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Oct 7, 2010 - 10:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
such a pitty that the only company C-One that makes an aftermarket sway bar for the SuperStrut Suspension only make them in 18mm. it should be thicker right?!
This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 25, 2011 - 11:57 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Oct 7, 2010 - 10:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '08 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Has anyone use the C-One sway bars I was thinking of getting a set for the GT4
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Oct 7, 2010 - 11:01 PM |
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
GT-FOURpl is the only one I've actually seen with one (though he's just got the car running again I think)
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Oct 8, 2010 - 7:47 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
brands just for bragging rights, 19mm is plenty thick for the rear if its adjustable and/or you have shorter/stiffer end links, remember that size isn't the most important thing, the difference between soft setting and hard setting is ALOT.
I have a 20mm at the rear on hard setting and a stock 20mm at the front and you can definitely feel the oversteer, it almost feels as if its in need of a thicker one at the front on hard as it feels it rolls too much up front. Also, even if it is a badly made sway bar Id say it would snap off where the end link bolts up before the sway bar would snap but that would be pretty extreme. This post has been edited by Euphoria: Oct 8, 2010 - 7:49 AM |
Oct 8, 2010 - 7:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Front Sway Bar from C-One is only 18mm. I'm saying its small because if you compare it to the suspension technique front sway bar at 24mm and an aftermarket sway bar for the Integra Type R at 25mm its considerably smaller wouldn't you say
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Oct 8, 2010 - 8:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
you can't really compare sway bars by their thicknesses alone..
if anyone is really curious and willing to ask these companies and find out what type of metal is used in making these sway bars, i can find out which one is better. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Oct 8, 2010 - 10:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
^ Thats right. What metal they use and if its hollow or filled.
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