what happened to Toyota?! |
what happened to Toyota?! |
Oct 14, 2010 - 8:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 24, '10 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
let me just say, what the hell happened to Toyota? and what is this Scion crap their pumping out?
since I was little I always saw the Supra/Turbo as a dreamish car (no ferrari killer, but a sweet ride). The 6 gen celica I own is very reminiscent of one - from the cockpit layout to the steering wheel. Everything is soft touch inside the car, and looks expensive (like faux leather or something) Our Celicas pull 0.87 G's on the skidpad on stock steelies (great for FWD), and you can certainly feel it driving. I can only imagine how some other people's celicas corner with suspension goodies. if power was a big issue, the 7th gen bumped that up to 180hp and a 6-speed. dont care for its interior, but handling remained up there, and both cars get great mileage, even by todays standards. I have my foot down ALL the time (6 gen), and I have never gotten worse than 23 mpgs. the 7th gen only improves that number. Quad headlights on a toyota? shaped like a bombshell, and just unique looking on the road all around. fast forward to today....scion tC? are you kidding me? miles of plastic inside, handling sucks compared to even a 6gen (.81 G skidpad, with 18" rims), bland bland bland inside and out (even the new 2011 model), and worst of all, the big 2.4 gets the exact same mpg, hp, torque, and performance numbers as the 1999 1.8 liter. In over 10 years, toyota has grown the engine but kept the same specs...no sense especially with the downsizing going on today. Granted, its a cheaper car than the Celica was, but there is no halo Supra to back it up. tC = too Conservative/toyota Corolla/corolla coupe. yawn. I am thoroughly disappointed with the direction toyota has gone with their compact sports car. decade old technology, handling has taken a steep dive, styling wouldn't even pass at Kia (see forte koup), and no passion/inspiration whatsoever in their cars. before anyone goes apeshizzle over the new FT-86 (http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spied/10q3/2012_2013_toyota_ft-86_subaru_0846_sports_coupe_spy_photos-future_cars), the motor, transmission, suspension, and everything else that helps to propel/steer the car is SUBARU. toyota is basically helping finance and rebadging a subaru... so heres to a great era of Toyota where they knew/cared about the driving experience. we own that piece of history, because all toyota makes now is appliances... haha end rant This post has been edited by e30og: Oct 14, 2010 - 8:33 AM -------------------- same skidpad grip as a 2006 M3....stock. 'nuff said
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Oct 14, 2010 - 9:18 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I agree with the lack of passion part but I think we all know Toyota isn't really interested in being sports cars anymore.
So you get to live in the past (keep driving older Toyotas until they no longer exist), accept Toyota's future (no more power/passion), or go to another manufacturer. It's a terrible time to be a Toyota enthusiast...depending on how you look at it. PS: I'm digging the new (2012) Vitz/Yaris so it's on the table for a future family car. -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Oct 14, 2010 - 9:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
agreed. i might have to go mazda/honda or maybe lexus..
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Oct 14, 2010 - 10:43 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 3, '06 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Save up a lot of dollars and buy a Lexus LF-A.
Supersportscar and still Toyota -------------------- JDM ST205
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Oct 14, 2010 - 11:28 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 30, '09 From Jamaica Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I agree totally. I would never trade my GT-four for any thing in the Toyota line-up currently. I've years of experience with GT-Starlet, Levin, MR2 and Celica Gt-four all of which were boosted. My opinion is that, the 90's era was the best of the Toyota. The 6 GEN Celica, SW20 and Mk4 Supra were Top-Quality built. The Kinda of looks you get in these cars today especially the GT-four and Supra, priceless. The design is still fresh after 16-17 yrs. I'm on my 4th Celica now.I love these cars,however,instead of getting something new from toyota or any other brand, I'm gonna build a Stroker 5sgte from scratch. That's were my fun lies now. There is nothing from japan that entice me right now. The looks, feel and quality is not what it used to be.
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Oct 14, 2010 - 11:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 30, '09 From Jamaica Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Oct 14, 2010 - 1:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
This should be moved to Off Topic. It's dealing with Toyota as a whole, not the 6gc.
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Oct 14, 2010 - 11:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 24, '10 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This should be moved to Off Topic. It's dealing with Toyota as a whole, not the 6gc. fine. What happened to the celica?! wish toyota would have followed Subaru and Mitsubishi in pursuing the GT-4, especially here in America. they could have made a modern day class leader. oh well -------------------- same skidpad grip as a 2006 M3....stock. 'nuff said
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Oct 15, 2010 - 1:56 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
HI. welcome to our party.... youre late.
join in on the 393378938 pissed off people. enjoy. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=69891 -------------------- |
Oct 15, 2010 - 2:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Lol piro
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