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post Nov 1, 2010 - 6:58 AM
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Looking for a piggyback Ecu for my 98 gt ct20b swap any suggestions?

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post Nov 1, 2010 - 7:01 AM
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emanage ultimate, or AEM FIC.


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post Nov 1, 2010 - 7:38 AM
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anyone suggest a link to a thread of successful AEM FIC piggyback installation?


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post Nov 1, 2010 - 7:50 AM
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steff (hurley97) has it installed in her car, and i believe smayy does as well.


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post Nov 1, 2010 - 1:19 PM
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im still using the FIC but im not very happy with it. I used a Split Second in Eryns 7A turbo kit and it runs awesome! im going to include that in future kits now.


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post Nov 1, 2010 - 1:27 PM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Nov 1, 2010 - 11:19 AM) *
im still using the FIC but im not very happy with it. I used a Split Second in Eryns 7A turbo kit and it runs awesome! im going to include that in future kits now.

Split Second?
post Nov 1, 2010 - 2:45 PM
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yes its another kind of piggy back. they should get more reconigition than they do, easy to tune with and cheap


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post Nov 2, 2010 - 8:19 PM
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I am looking at the emanage ultimate. Do you recommend the "FTC1 Fuel/Timing Calibrator"?

http://www.splitsec.com/products/fuel-timingcalibrator.htm




QUOTE (Smaay @ Nov 1, 2010 - 2:45 PM) *
yes its another kind of piggy back. they should get more recognition than they do, easy to tune with and cheap

post Nov 3, 2010 - 3:15 PM
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yes thats the newer one that controls timing. its good for ODBII cars. if you have an ODBI car you can just retard the distributor a tad. but i like the SS units because they are cheap, easy to tune with, and cheap. (but work really good!)


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post Nov 3, 2010 - 3:45 PM
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Im glad this came up. i have been considering changing out my current piggyback before swap is complete. i have an emanage blue. been thinking maybe i need the ultimate. i hear AEM FIC alot but i also read they dont play nice with our cars kindasad.gif


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post Nov 3, 2010 - 3:47 PM
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I have an apexi neo that I'm going to use.


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post Nov 3, 2010 - 11:51 PM
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really? have u heard good reviews?


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post Nov 4, 2010 - 12:01 PM
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Heard some good reviews about the apexi line up for what I am trying to do, and the NEO is the most updated Apexi one. So far I haven't personally played with it but I have done a lot of research and reading up on it and it seems very user friendly, even has beginner and expert tuning settings. I want it so I can read my wideband gauge and make adjustments for every 1000 RPMs for every gear for Air to fuel mixture, which it will do.


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post Nov 8, 2010 - 3:41 PM
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As far as i have read, Apexi Neo doesnt control ignition timing? or does it? or partly? basically the piggyback needs fuel adjustment and ignition timing - both ADVANCE and RETARD. i think apexi couldnt do one of them(retarding ignition?), as well as the emanage.


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post Nov 8, 2010 - 6:19 PM
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QUOTE (BriinumsBo @ Nov 8, 2010 - 4:41 PM) *
As far as i have read, Apexi Neo doesnt control ignition timing? or does it? or partly? basically the piggyback needs fuel adjustment and ignition timing - both ADVANCE and RETARD. i think apexi couldnt do one of them(retarding ignition?), as well as the emanage.

none of the SAFC units (including the NEO) control timing.


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post Nov 8, 2010 - 9:14 PM
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i stumbled on this:

Features of the GReddy eManage include:

Air & Fuel Control
For Larger Mass Air Flow Meters or Throttle Bodies, you can adjust the Air Input Signal ±20% to Correspond with the Correct Proportional Amount of Fuel Delivery
Fuel Delivery can be Adjusted at 5 Different RPM Points for use with Larger Injectors
Auto Idle Correction to Prevent Engine Stalling
Fuel / Boost Cut Controller Included to Allow Maximum Horsepower from the Turbo and Prevent Lean Run at Top end RPMs. Optional Boost Sensor & Harness allows for More Refined Turbo Interaction & Control
eManage Can Control up to 2 Additional Injectors that can be activated by RPM or Boost Pressure (Optional Harness Required).



Ignition Timing Control
With the Optional Harness, you are able to control Ignition Timing for High Boost Conditions

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[color="#292929"]guess it does control timing? i always heard oppposite though






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post Nov 9, 2010 - 7:38 PM
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price it all up, everything you need, and let me know, im willing to bet that the SS unit is less than half that.


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post Apr 9, 2012 - 1:55 PM
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i've got a gen3 mr2... i'm looking to see if any st205 guys have used the AEM FIC?
post Apr 9, 2012 - 2:08 PM
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there have been a few people who have played with it, but none on the forums. the feedback I got was that the AEM unit is very very sensitive to noise, which is very common among toyota sensors, thus making tunning a littlle harder than what it needs to be, some people ( including NA-T engine owners ) came up with a resistor fix to absord the excess noise that exist on our sensors and after that tuning was a lot easier.



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post Apr 9, 2012 - 5:32 PM
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Hmmmm... according to ATSracing, they're using them with pretty high levels of success. I didn't hear about this issue. Is this happening all across the board with gen3 users?

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