7afe Weird idle, Boxer engine |
7afe Weird idle, Boxer engine |
Dec 26, 2010 - 3:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
So heres the thing, about a week ago she stared to idle kind of funny, not really a rough idle but definately different than normal, the closest thing i can compare it too is sounding like a boxer engine.
Anyone else have this issue or tell me whats going on? On a side note, oil was changed recently, she has new platnum plugs, new wires, its in the right firing order, new belts etc, i take good car of this car. Someone help -------------------- 1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green
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Dec 26, 2010 - 3:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
bosch platinum plugs right?
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Dec 26, 2010 - 5:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
no NKG plugs
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Dec 26, 2010 - 7:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
double check order of wires on cap.
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Dec 26, 2010 - 8:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
If the wiring is off:
#1:Its gonna run like **** and will be noticeable #2:Its really hard to wire it wrong as the wires are different lengths Are the revs varying at all?Drives normal? |
Dec 26, 2010 - 9:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
No revs are fine, and i know how to wire my plugs, just confused as to why its doing this, im gonna have a look at the plugs tomorrow and see if one is fould really bad or whats going on
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Dec 26, 2010 - 9:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
Is the rev maybe lower or higher than your used to?
Just FYI i picture a boxer engine to sound like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhS2meqgduc That fluctuating,raspy pos noise.. This post has been edited by SupraKid: Dec 26, 2010 - 9:53 PM |
Dec 27, 2010 - 9:33 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
no it only sounds like a subi when im sitting still like at a light
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Dec 27, 2010 - 2:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
no it only sounds like a subi when im sitting still like at a light Is it idling at about 800 or 750 while you're at a light and it idles all rough and shakes the wheel? I've had that problem with my 7A ever since I've had it. It only does it when it's warmed up right? Not right away. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Dec 27, 2010 - 2:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 2, '07 From Berlin, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 18 (100%) |
no it only sounds like a subi when im sitting still like at a light Is it idling at about 800 or 750 while you're at a light and it idles all rough and shakes the wheel? I've had that problem with my 7A ever since I've had it. It only does it when it's warmed up right? Not right away. yeah, same here. -------------------- *1997 Celica ST - 3SGE Greytop BEAMS *1977 Celica RA29 - Classic Cruiser *2005 Matrix AWD - dedded but still hanging around like a ghost 2019 Rav4 XLE Premium - Sports mode is fun. |
Dec 28, 2010 - 4:57 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No revs are fine, and i know how to wire my plugs, just confused as to why its doing this, im gonna have a look at the plugs tomorrow and see if one is fould really bad or whats going on I had the same problem with my 7afe once. I power washed the engine and some water got into one of the spark plug wires. This cause the engine to lose spark on one of the cylinders. The car would run and idle fine but the sound was like a Subaru boxer engine. You can test the problem out by leaving your engine idling and removing the spark plug wires with the engine running. Becarefull not to shock yourself on the spark. If you can unplug a wire that does not change how the car is currently running you found the problem. You either have a dud spark plug wire, spark plug or distributor cap. Good luck and dont drive your car too much you risk destroying your catalytic converter. |
Jan 1, 2011 - 9:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '06 From Findlay,Oh Currently Offline Reputation: -1 (33%) |
im going to assume its a miss by what ur describing just a small one will make it idle ruff (lumpy) like a subaru ... i would replace the cap and rotor to eliminate the tune up issue's since u have new plugs and wires... could be an injector going bad ........ lets us know what happens after that ...
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Jan 2, 2011 - 9:38 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
I had my coil start to go, and symptoms were slightly rough idle, and random misfires under certain engine loads, nothing definate or constant.
You can also try to clean out your throttle body and IAC valve. take it off&apart and use brake/carb cleaner to get it all clean.. makes the old 7As run much better BTW this is stephen_lee, not DEATH vvv [This is DE@TH] vvv When MY coil went I couldn't run anything higher than 3K RPMs once the car got warm and it was very constant We need more help with your symptoms to help you BTW - A tuneup is incomplete and you haven't really done much for it untill you change your cap and rotor. They really can effect performance on these engines. I've been known to change my plugs every 6mos and my Cap and rotor every 3mos [When I'm being OCD about it]. Wires I let go usually a year or two but I buy TRD wires and they aren't easy to find and last long. And only OEM will do on the C&R. Parts house cap and rotors run like old OEM ones - the price difference is negligible anyway. This post has been edited by DEATH: Jan 2, 2011 - 9:59 AM -------------------- ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
Jan 2, 2011 - 11:05 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
Thanks guys, i was thinking that it was a fuel issue so bought a bottle of injector cleaner, i drove her 100 miles straight the other day and she ran fine and would still move like she used to.
as far as more descriptive goes when it drops below a grand is usually when i hear it most, so cap and rotor are on the list i guess, need it anyways, but i will upload a video when i get home, im over 600 miles away from the car right now -------------------- 1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green
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Jan 2, 2011 - 12:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Thanks guys, i was thinking that it was a fuel issue so bought a bottle of injector cleaner, i drove her 100 miles straight the other day and she ran fine and would still move like she used to. as far as more descriptive goes when it drops below a grand is usually when i hear it most, so cap and rotor are on the list i guess, need it anyways, but i will upload a video when i get home, im over 600 miles away from the car right now Yeah, I've tried Gumout fuel system cleaner more than once and she stills idles like that under 1k, but otherwise, she's completely fine! This post has been edited by HectortheRican: Jan 2, 2011 - 12:55 PM -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Jan 7, 2011 - 11:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 17, '08 From Mexico Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have the same problem =( a lumpy idle, has anyone resolved the problem?
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Jan 7, 2011 - 11:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
check your compression. i have low compression on one cylinder and it idles lumpy
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Jan 8, 2011 - 7:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
i know it sounds stupid but i had the worst idle problems for awhile..put some heat in it, and it has never ran beter!
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Jan 8, 2011 - 9:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
heat ?
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Jan 9, 2011 - 5:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
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