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Okay so earlier i asked what would be better for me regarding my two celicas and i decided to switch my st into a gt. I have a gt and st, but i want the hatch (st) instead of my coupe (gt). I looked around on here for how-to's but i didnt find any. This is my first swap and its a temporary thing until i sell my coupe then i will buy a 3s and replace the 5 from the hatch. Can someone guide me on doing this swap? thanks!

Sure, I can give you guidance. My first point of guidance will be to tell you that you're better off spending the money on a potential 5S swap to get your 7A completely healthy while throwing minor performance parts at it. Make sure the engine can breathe well and then concentrate on getting optimal exhaust flow. Your ST will feel up to par (or better) with a stock GT.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Feb 5, 2011 - 8:07 PM

understanable but this is all free because i have both cars. I just like hatch over coupe..

My advice still stands, actually. I'd keep the ST and sell the GT for profit. Then, you have a nice extra chunk of cash to spend. I see no reason to swap twice, doesn't seem worth it to me.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Feb 5, 2011 - 8:24 PM

yea i understand where your coming from, but it helps me in two different areas, experience and having all the parts from the 5 ready for the 3s. If i do the swap then i would have all the wiring and mounts for the future 3... Still not worth it? like i said ive never done one so im not sure what to expect, if its not worth it then ill just keep the hatch like you said.

***cough**** coupe is lighter*****cough.
Do what you want, but swapping the 5s over cause you want the shell from an ST is almost pointless...If you want to experience of a swap, then sure, why not, and you got the parts to burn....Personally, I don't see the point in it. Because in the long run, your really making more work for yourself.

yea 20lbs lighter lol. I agree with yall on extra work. So I'm guessing its not worth it to get it ready for a 3s with the parts from the gt?

Hey mister thats 20lbs you didnt have before!
Ok seriously, I say if your going to do it, do it one time. There seems to be little sense in swapping one engine, then taking it out only to put another one in later (be it weeks or months), to me thats time wasted. I think your best bet is to read up on the treads if people who put in the 3sgte into their ST's. See what all is involved. Then decide one what you want to do.
But, going back to your original post, you want to take the engine out of your GT Coupe, and throw that into the ST Hatch, and then put the 7A into the coupe (then sell it?). Am I reading that correctly? Then you want top get the 3SGTE and plop that in the hatch (in place of the 5S you pulled from the coupe)?

That's what I was thinking.

Just save up and research and 3s swap the hatch and keep the coupe perfectly fine how it is. Possibly even sell it to fund the 3s swap? I don't know that's what I would do. Wouldn't be worth having both cars down at the same time anyways, it's never for sure the swap won't have some issues and take longer than expected. Gl with either of the decisions you make, they all lead to exciting stuff.

Oh so in the end, We'll have a 3s swap with Rear drum breaks?

Sorry.

Honnestly OP, i also think you're making a tremendous amount of work for yourself.

But it's ur car not mines. So first thing u need to do is research the bajeebous outt the differences of the two vehicles. You're going to need to swap the trannys as well as several other componets from ECU and Wirng harness, to most of the exhaust system. And it'd be my recommendation to swap out teh rear drum to the disk breaks while you're at it.

Read up on the 7a to 3s swaps; because the fitture of the 5s and 3s are the exact same. there's some custom drilling and mounting you'll have to do. after that, 5s to 3s will be more strighfoward.

dont listen to any of the nay sayers, OP. if you want to put in a 5S then more power to you. follow the sticky on installing a 3S-GTE into an ST. its going to be very similar. the wiring might be a but of a hastle bbt since you have the harness for the 5S, it might just plug into the junction box with no worries. you will be able to use everything off your coupe, the engine, tranny, and axles.

are these both manuals by the way? if you are doing this to autos that might be a little more work.

Yea I just started the process, I rather put in some work and gain some experience and free parts. My hatch is a 7a auto and my coupe is a 5s which is a manual. Ima try to just replace everything basically switching shells. Thank you all for your opinion.

well you are doing a difficult swap, going from auto to manual requires alot more work, but since you have a donor car it should be fairly simple. i suggest pulling the dash out to make it easier to install the clutch pedal and master cylinder. you will also need to change the tunnel to support the shifter cables. but maybe some slight mods will be enough. please take tons of pictures and post them.

when u sell the auto ST, with a hole in the firewall, they are going to ask, What happened.

That car will then be considered tampered with, hence difficult to sale. unless u sell as rolling shell. Hence for a couple of bucks. ... good luck..

I was removing a few parts and all and a few people out here suggested the same thing about selling a tampered car. That was a really good point. I'm just going to replace all the parts and put the st together to sell it ASAP. I hope I sell it for at least 2k to help me get my 3s for my coupe. Thanks all of yall for your inputs and helping me realize that I could've done a big mistake lol.

yeah bud, a car missing parts is difficult to sell..

you will probably sell it. get the carpet out, wash it, get the seats clean and a good shine, i bet it will bring back home some dough

I sure hope so and then add some of my tax return money and get the 3s!