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How is that ignorant? Please "school" me to how the the 2gr would be a better swap than a 1uz(if the 1uz were feasible in our cars).

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Mar 11, 2011 - 1:39 AM

1uz - heavy, and slower. ~170whp and 230ish torque on a 1uz (I dynoed two sc400's on Saturday). The 2gr has that beat by over 100whp. Its got more torque too, I just can't remember exact numbers.

Just because it has two more pistons doesn't mean its better. Research is your friend.

Obviously something was up with those, as the 1uzs stock should make at LEAST 200whp stock. And if you were to invest in a vvti then youd make the same amount if not more than a 2g, not to mention the sky is the limit with those engines. In a celica it wouldnt be practical but if your just talking engines then IMO the 1uz would be above the 2g.

Also if you have a dyno sheet of a stock 2gr doing 270whp+ id love to see it.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Mar 11, 2011 - 2:06 AM

You can make any motor have ungodly amounts of power, that doesn't make it better. The 2gr is better technology, better economy, better design, better power, etc.

1uz is a pile of crap.

Class dismissed.

Good job supporting or proving anything you said in your previous post. And sorry if I didn't make it simple enough for you to understand, making more power is much easier and cheaper using a 1uz than a 2gr. And yes the 1uz is a pile of crap, you are so right, your word is fact.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Mar 11, 2011 - 2:12 AM

I had a 1uzfe and a 1grfe. I take the grfe 10 times in a rainy day with vomit on my car seats.

The uz is a great swap for one that wants to waste money, and wants torque..

We are talking about a celica swap here, so how could be 1uzfe be that great.

Sorry Kiddo, let the big men talk about swaps.

ok lets keep this clean people.
I think this is more exciting because it's a "never been done before" and it's a new engine which shows a lot of potential.

Here is Marc's (Gouky on MR2OC) 2grfe sw20 dyno run .. He is first guy into install in to a sw20 and
makes the install kits. On a side not may not headers anymore due to lack of sales and high upfront
cost to have made.

Its i a known fact all the the sw20's are showing 270-280 rwhp with Goukys headers.. Many dyno sheets
mr2oc,twobrutal,etc...

I have the motor and 6spd ready to install now into 94 shell but here is my issue.I already own a ST205
so not sure if i want to due a 2gr celica. Plus i own a 95 hardtop mr2 but it needs major body work.

2gR.....................DO IT! both of you....

FORGMANN, having a 95 sw20 is the shizznit correct? IIRC thats the rarest year production number wise.
If you want you could ship the car down here and have all the body work done for CHEAP + full paint job.

I see an engine from a ISF I wander if it fits?

bump

soon.. once i start, it will go on my progress thread... I will probably get the parts around summer to start winter. I want to use the BEams in Summer...

See, it's all about the LF-A motor. A V10 that is the same size as a typical Toyota V6. It's possible.... just wait around for someone to wreck...

ok I'm after a clip but having problems finding the correct engine.
The 2grFE are used in quite a few Lexus cars. Which car should I look out for and which version of the engine?
I'm not 100% sure but I think the FX450h has the newest version but they're hard to find.
There are more available from the IS350 and that has a AWD tranny but finding technical information on the Lexus is difficult. The Mr2 boys use a 2006 Avalon engine but is that better than the IS350?
Also aside from finding which version of the 2GRFE's which one can be mated directly to the ST205 tranny?

This post has been edited by yellowchinaman: Jun 5, 2011 - 9:21 AM

little that i know is some people recommend the highlander and the rav 4, with other miscellaneous pieces.. i have to log in to mr2oc and copy from the post i made and got noobed....

it will be great for you to open the way for this swap.. I still would like to do this but my interest has gone almost all on a



which is already bought an on its way to daddy...

four-cylinder double overhead camshaft 18RG engine is a classic! Why did you buy that and what are your plans for it?
I've contacted woodsport who did the MR2 transplant for some advice. Arrantly mating the engine to the E153 tranny isn't a problem at all aside from 1 bolt alignment.
However we are limited to getting hold of that engine here in the UK as we mainly have Rav4's which are mostly 4 cyliners as they're cheaper than the v6 and 2008+ Toyota Highlander and RX350's are still pretty new and not many up for scraps.

ok so I've found one at a god price from Australia and waiting to get a quote for a pallet to be shipped to me.
I was told the measurements where 700mm wide x 600mm long x 600mm high. Think it'll fit?
I've spoken to Woodsport and they said it may be tight for the transfer box. No mention about steering rack as someone by someone in this forum before.

guess well have to see, if you get it before me let me know.

with all of the talk in this tread abot this awsome motor, i am suprised that i did not see the REAL question that needs to be asked, or interest poked.... 2GR-FE on the gt4 AWD!!! AND the celica bay has ALOT more room for a turbo!!! best combo IMO!!!

(i also have a 91 sw20 and have been closely following the 2grfe devleopment on mr2oc.com, and there are 3 members on mr2oc that have been doing ALOT of development for/with this motor in just the lst 6 months alone! [gouky's new fuel rails and upgraded injectors!!! ])

imo the availibility of this motor being found in the dirt cheap "you-pull-it's" like crazy-rays (DC/Balt area) is going up, as the life of this motor in the toyota lineup is now hitting its high point. and that is the BEST way for you to get a "cheap" motor. (most of these types of places will sell the motor w/ no acc, "as is" for anbout $150). It might take a wile, and need to spend many weekends there, but the stuff that you will learn, and the reduced cost of the swap would be well worth the time spent. hell, for most this swap takes about a year to do start to finnish (ish). this is definatly not for a DD...

I'm doing a 2gr swap right now in my brother's 93 mr2.

We're looking at a total budget on the swap of around $3000. I'm modifying a set of honda v6 headers. They seem to be about 80% correct for use with the 2gr. I'm doing the wiring, the exhaust, and the motor mount, he's doing the installation (the grunt work). My brother plans to daily drive this car. There really is no reason not to.

There should be no reason why this can't be done in the Celica. You could probably even use your existing s53, or whatever S transmission you happen to have.....though S transmissions are marginal for use with the 2gr. There might be some clearance issues to contend with. Somebody would have to install one to figure that out.