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post Mar 20, 2011 - 1:25 PM
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ho yeah and 2 custom mount for the tranny came whit it, and there is some better pic, (of my dirty car)


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post Mar 20, 2011 - 9:26 PM
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fitment look ok...but you still got small gaps in the headlamp bottom portion and the top of the nose.
post Mar 20, 2011 - 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (Needles @ Mar 20, 2011 - 2:17 PM) *
i got the beast ! biggrin.gif


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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new tongue.gif


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one piece exhaust , 3inch, whit 3inch downpipe i need modified ( i have all the connection, just need weld


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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer


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does someone know how much horsepower the downpipe and 3" exhaust give on stock 3sgte ?

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post Mar 21, 2011 - 1:37 PM
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QUOTE (chacha @ Mar 20, 2011 - 10:26 PM) *
fitment look ok...but you still got small gaps in the headlamp bottom portion and the top of the nose.



i cannot see what u mean... sorry im blind, could u show me mark where the gap is... or maybe in the upper, between the hood there is some gap, but that is normal

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post Mar 21, 2011 - 9:53 PM
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No two 3S-GTE motors are the same, but depending on the boost level you're running and the condition of the motor & turbo internally, you could achieve anywhere from 180hp to 300hp at the treads


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GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC
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post Mar 23, 2011 - 7:43 PM
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today i have put the 3" exhaust and apexi muffler i got. i was on the go to put the 3sgte next week, so i wanted to do some job before i start the swap, cauze im using the car now. so after i fit the exhaust,there was a gap between manifold and exhaust on the stock 2.2l engine like 7 inch approx, i had 2 old exhaust , so i cut the tip that connect to manifold on the 2 exhaust, joined together and that make the missing link needed, til next week (i have 3" downpipe to custom it to fit the one from the st185 i think , custom one...) so, it small mouth whit big big ass lol, the sound is really like it got base sound , at 3k rpm its too loud, at 4k rpm its the best sound i ever heard, no base at 4k, am asking myself if i need another resonator or change the big big apexi muffler , anyway, everybody looked at my caR today (i work on the delivery whit it) and 3 wanted to race, bmw 2011, volvo 06-07 modified turbo , and some others....oooo man i need my engine in !!!! i was just not ready for the challenge lol. and at the little store someone say to me, hey{ u have a nice car, what is it ? and he was really impress by it, he ask to check it out and the store keeper want to check it too lol, and he show me is car on is i-phone, he did have a 2007 porsche twin turbo 3.8 v6, i was happy to know when u have a porsche like this u still have interest in a 1994 celica lol. but bad news anyway, when i changed my exhaust i saw my cross member is failing at the left tab, the tab ok but the cross member is crack there. and i hear knock tok tlok not tok when i turn left at certain speed, **** !i need new cross member before the swap......

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post Mar 24, 2011 - 3:06 AM
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ Jan 22, 2011 - 4:32 PM) *
The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.

Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:

1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard

If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.


I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.

umm i have a caldina engine i paid 1200 for it and dr tweak does the wireharness for 580 flat there is nothin different about this engine but that umm idk maybe that its not as old as the 3sgte st205 it drop's right in u can use most of the parts off of the st205 only thing that is different is that it has c.o.p's im so tired of hearing people talk bad about this engine if u ask me i think yall are just to cheap to buy a caldina .... and the bad thing is .. is that if u already have a gt celica all you have to do is drop the engine in change the flywheel and clutch and send your wire harness to tweak if u can get one for 1500 your going to spend like 2500 total on the swap if u do it your self wowwww that cost sooooooooooooo muchhhhh and u got 20 more hp for 400 bucks please learnnnn your info before u talk ish and u cant even tell me anything i dont know because i have a caldina and have already done this swap so i know what it takes and what it doesn't
post Mar 24, 2011 - 12:50 PM
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picture of my new muffler , i just put a cylinder rubber inside the tip to make less base sound , it should be half inch smaller,


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post Mar 25, 2011 - 11:52 PM
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i just got brand new front cross member suspension assembly/k pic tommorow

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post Mar 26, 2011 - 9:25 AM
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post Mar 28, 2011 - 6:31 AM
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i just start my swap yesterday at 8:00h pm. so my mom boyfriend just finish installing his big car lift in the garage and im the first one working on it i stoped at 1am , so i just need to unplug ecu and unbolt the 4 mount, everything else is done, i hope finish it before thuesday... i will put pic later, thanks to all 6gc member for ALL the info and to make this project possible smile.gif
post Mar 29, 2011 - 11:15 PM
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second day,. i worked all day long ,
starting by onbolt the engine and tranny mount and pull out the 5sfe


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my old front crossmember


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now i had some problem since the bolt on the reart mount are striped mad.gif so no rear mount for now
when i move the shifter its weird, but it seem to work (gt cable)

i have choose to extend the wiring engine to the computer, i will do that tommorow
post Mar 29, 2011 - 11:34 PM
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i have some question, plz can someone answer it ?
those should be easy to anwser for any who did the swap

so kindasad.gif

question#1 where does this fuel line goes ?



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question#2 where u plug this plastic bottle (the bottom of it)


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question #3 where do i plug that line ?



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question #4 how u setup this to this to this ?? plz


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question #5 where is the plug for this (lead prestone to the chargercooler) smic)






question# 6
where does that one goes ?


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questin #7 and finally this one , i dont know where it goes ?


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question#8 where this 2 plus goes ??


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thank for any help wink.gif

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post Mar 30, 2011 - 11:56 AM
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all nproblem fixed,
thanks for help, im waiting tonight my friend will extend my wiring, everything is on place

THANKS to pressure2 , he anwser it all in turbo forum

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today i just finish fixing everything, but when i tried to start the car , it does notting, no crank, i only have power to my light , someone else did had this problem before ? ?
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it's called research man.
post Apr 6, 2011 - 1:02 AM
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QUOTE (Needles @ Apr 4, 2011 - 7:57 PM) *
today i just finish fixing everything, but when i tried to start the car , it does notting, no crank, i only have power to my light , someone else did had this problem before ? ?
send your harness to tweak i bet its wired wrong ?
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i think the wiring is good
i will try this tommorow: from what i can tell with the wiring

the 205 starter relay runs its power through the 7.5a ST fuse where as on the 204 it gets directed through the 7.5a IGN fuse. I jumped that so now when i turn the key it opens the relay for the starter and the starter goes on.

so when you turn the key to the position that the car would normally run in the starter stays on? The other relay box that sits up near the rad holds the intercooler pump relay, fuel pump relay and dimmer relay. Also the fuses for the left and right high beams. What is the current problem? Because there is nothing in this box that should give you trouble with the starter circuit.

You can wire around it, I think... look at the diagrams and fake it. You will have to wire your fuel pump to recieve full voltage all the time (getting rid of the fuel pump resistor).

At this point, you should be able to start your car with the B+ and FP pins jumpered in the diagnostics connector in the engine bay.





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i think the wiring is good
i will try this tommorow: from what i can tell with the wiring

the 205 starter relay runs its power through the 7.5a ST fuse where as on the 204 it gets directed through the 7.5a IGN fuse. I jumped that so now when i turn the key it opens the relay for the starter and the starter goes on.

so when you turn the key to the position that the car would normally run in the starter stays on? The other relay box that sits up near the rad holds the intercooler pump relay, fuel pump relay and dimmer relay. Also the fuses for the left and right high beams. What is the current problem? Because there is nothing in this box that should give you trouble with the starter circuit.

You can wire around it, I think... look at the diagrams and fake it. You will have to wire your fuel pump to recieve full voltage all the time (getting rid of the fuel pump resistor).

At this point, you should be able to start your car with the B+ and FP pins jumpered in the diagnostics connector in the engine bay.
I know for a fact that there is more than making your wires longer for the st205 there are sum other wires that need to be moved and stuff i watch the guys do it from ATS but i cant remember wat wires they were so long ago lol but i hope u gett it working because i know ATSRACING will charge u around 2500 to 3000 to fix your wires and tweak well lol lets just say i tried to do my caldina harness by my self lol yeah i had to pay him a 1000 dollars to fix it lol so i really hope u get it working if would have just sent them to tweak from the start yyou would have been lookin at like 5 something but noww whooo knowwwwssss lol but i dont know to much about st205's but if you ever get a caldina i got u i know alot about the caldina engines
post Apr 7, 2011 - 7:47 AM
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