1994 Celica ST, No Spark |
1994 Celica ST, No Spark |
Aug 3, 2011 - 8:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've finished throwing a new 7A-FE long block into the car. However it doesn't spark. I put a new distributor...still no spark. Wires test well, everything else is new. WTF am I missing? I've started going through the wire harness looking for damage, have yet to find any.
Is there a security type of thing that disables the spark? No Tachometer movement either. There is power to coil. Sorry to blast the forum, but I didn't find anything on the site. BTW this site was a great resource and addition to my lame Haynes manual. John |
Aug 3, 2011 - 9:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 9, '11 From Manila, Philippines Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
could be a busted igniter.
also see if this can help. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/repairinf...900c152800b8b92 |
Aug 3, 2011 - 9:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
could be a busted igniter. also see if this can help. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/repairinf...900c152800b8b92 I've been through all that testing. Unfortunately there isn't a test for the ignitor. The cost of the ignitor was more than a complete ebay distributor. So I replaced the entire distributor, coil, ignitor, cap and rotor. Thanks for the tip, everything helps. |
Aug 3, 2011 - 10:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
does your cel come on with the key on?
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Aug 3, 2011 - 11:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 7, '11 From so cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
check timing, and check if conected the ground to the intake manifold.
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Aug 4, 2011 - 8:16 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
THe car does come on, with no trouble lights.
I'm going to get it back to TDC, and check all the timing matchmarks and the distributor match marks. I can't do much more with the timing unless I have spark and it runs. If anyone could provide a range of voltages at the electrical connectors perhaps that would lead me somewhere too. I haven't found that data and the page on this site that provides it won't load. I'll probably replace the fuses that could be issues, although they all look to be good. The car start and ran before I pulled the enigne. I'm sure this is a mess I created. I'll keep working my way through the harness. |
Aug 4, 2011 - 8:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
so when u turn the ket on, the check engine light doesnt come on?
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Aug 4, 2011 - 10:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes the light comes on as normal, goes off during cranking and returns when you come off "Start".
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Aug 5, 2011 - 4:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i had similar problem with 5s. turned out to be the ecu
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Aug 5, 2011 - 6:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yuck, I would rather somebody tell me to check my muffler bearings. LOL
Still no spark, I directly grounded the ground wire in the 2 pin connector. Still no spark. Whatever happened to simple ignition systems. How do I determine if the ECU is the issue? Will a scanning tool tell me? I'm going to go broke with the guess and buy car repair technique. I did jump the wires in the diagnostic box. I just got a steady flash on the Check Engine light, it never stopped. |
Aug 5, 2011 - 8:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
when my ecu was faulty i did get a code 13. replaced whole distributor, leads, plugs, igniter, cap, rotor, coil still no spark, turned out to be the ecu faulty, I took a look at the ecu circuit board and solder had melted. This happened because my battery was knackered and that shorted out my starter motor which im thinking was a chain reaction and fried the ecu also
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Aug 5, 2011 - 9:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'll dig out the ECU tomorrow. I got a diagnostic tool to try, but without it running or tripping the tach I'm not sure it will help.
thanks... |
Aug 5, 2011 - 10:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 22, '11 From Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No codes with a jumper wire, but the tool picked up Code 42, Vehicle Speed Sensor. No SPD signal for 5 seconds when the engine speed is above 3800 rpm. The book says the issue could be Vehicle speed sensor circuit, Vehicle Speed Sensor, ECM.
It also caught Code 43, Starter Signal. No STA signal to the ECM until the engine speed reaches 800 rpm with the vehicle not moving. The issue could be Starter signal circuit, Ignition Switch, Main Relay switch or ECM. Not all that helpful, I'll visually inspect the main relay and ECM tomorrow. |
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