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My clutch needs changed and I am considering replacing the manual transmission in my ST with one from a 7AFE corolla with the 3.722 final drive while I have the transmission out. Might even be able to get a straight trade if I can find someone that wants faster acceleration in their corolla.
Has anyone done this, and how did it affect the drive-ability around town and your fuel economy? It should improve highway mileage but wondering whether the car will require a lot more throttle (and gas) around town. I really want to improve the MPG of the car, especially at freeway speeds. Looking at fueleconomy.gov though, the 7th gen Corollas didn't really have much better gas mileage, despite having the taller final drive ratio (all other gears are the same), weighing ~100lbs less than the 6th gen celica, and having .01 lower Coefficient of Drag (corolla has slightly higher frontal area, with CdA 6.58 vs celica CdA 6.54). By the 97 model year, the 7g corolla and 6g celica 7AFEs were getting a couple more MPG than at introduction. Does anybody know where this came from? maybe the facelift bumper design on the celica, etc? Or was there a transmission/gearing/tuning change that someone knows the details of? What about 5th gear swaps? I've done a lot of searching here and the only thing I saw that really talked about it was someone mentioning that 5th gear from a Toyota Levin GT-Z would work. If anyone can point me to a source for taller 5th gears that will work with an ST manual, it would be appreciated. It would be cheaper and easier, or could combine with the taller final drive for even lower cruising RPMs. I know I could get some improvements with aeromods (grill blocking, rear wheel skirts, etc.), and I'll be working on those if I decide to keep the car, but I need to at least get the RPMs down in 5th gear, as my engine gets loud at/after 2800RPM (55MPH). Engine is at 3200RPM at `65MPH in fifth. Thanks |
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I was also considering a 5th gear swap, but due to lack of time to research I have not found what gear I could use. My car rides 3k at 65 and 3.2k at 70 I don't know why yours is higher. I know I'm not help but good luck!
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really no point unless you drive a siht ton of miles or can get the tranny cheap/free. cost of tranny > fuel savings.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Have you looked into the 7th gen Celica C60 tranny? It's a 6-speed, supposedly bolts right up.
This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Aug 30, 2011 - 2:22 PM -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Anybody?
I was also considering a 5th gear swap, but due to lack of time to research I have not found what gear I could use. My car rides 3k at 65 and 3.2k at 70 I don't know why yours is higher. I know I'm not help but good luck! Strangely, since my clutch started slipping, my RPMs are a bit lower, closer to your measurements really no point unless you drive a siht ton of miles or can get the tranny cheap/free. cost of tranny > fuel savings. 1/2 off sale at Pick n' Pull till Sep. 5th. According to their price list, would be $80 ($50 + $30 core charge) during the sale, if I can find one. Plus it is about noise/comfort as well. Have you looked into the 7th gen Celica C60 tranny? It's a 6-speed, supposedly bolts right up. When I fist got this car, everyone was saying it wouldn't work. Plus, except for 1st and 6th gears, they are all shorter, including the final drive which is 4.529 according to wikipedia. |
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