98 celica v6 turbo conversion |
98 celica v6 turbo conversion |
Sep 19, 2011 - 10:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 24, '10 From NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I got a 1998 celica gt 2.2 and I need to know what I would need to convert to a v6 turbo. What engine should I use and what do I need to convert
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Sep 20, 2011 - 8:08 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Welcome to the board Soul and good to see you're from North Carolina; if you don't mind my asking, whereabouts in NC are you?
To answer your question you might want to take a look at stephen_lee's thread about dropping a V6 in his GT; he's using a 3VZ-FE from a Lexus ES300 and plans to turbo it as well. Also, snapshotgt's thread where he had a 1MZ-FE installed. Good luck! -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 24, '10 From NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks man. I'm in Wilson
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Sep 20, 2011 - 1:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I got a 1998 celica gt 2.2 and I need to know what I would need to convert to a v6 turbo. What engine should I use and what do I need to convert You need to use the fancy search function we have on this site... - Use a 3VZ. I'm not going to tell you WHY you should use it. Do a google search and find that out. - Use a E153 transmission. Again, same as above. Do your research and find out why. - Single turbo or twin? You have two banks of exhaust, so you need to figure that out as well. - Engine management? What are you going to use? And what is the point of it all when you can do a 2GR + simple modifications and have 280+whp with stock Toyota reliability? Riddle me this. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Sep 27, 2011 - 4:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '11 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
- Use a E153 transmission. Again, same as above. Do your research and find out why.
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Sep 27, 2011 - 6:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '08 From Royal Oak, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
- Use a E153 transmission. Again, same as above. Do your research and find out why. -------------------- God made man....
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Sep 27, 2011 - 7:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
LOL.
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Sep 27, 2011 - 9:27 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
as stated
search. read. learn. fix current issues. learn. research. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Sep 28, 2011 - 9:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
ok ill bite, just for information purposes on this thread....Why would you want to use an old 3VZ-FE that has an iron block and weighs a ton over an aluminum 1MZ-FE that makes 20 more HP and is so much lighter?
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Sep 28, 2011 - 12:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Iron holds up to the abuse of Forced Induction. The aluminum block on the 1MZ wont take it very well.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Sep 28, 2011 - 4:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
you are correct that an iron block will hold up better, however the 1MZ does have iron inserts in the cylinder walls. the pistons are the weakest point in the 1MZ.
Im gonna have to disagree with you, the 1MZ is a much better platform. newer technology, lighter, and later ones have VVT. other options are the 3MZ and of course the 2GR -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Sep 29, 2011 - 9:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I agree the 1MZ is a better motor (I am a bit bias...), but for someone looking for high HP goals with a turbo the 3VZ is a better starting platform.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Sep 29, 2011 - 10:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 19, '11 From Paraguay, Winchestertonfieldville Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
3vz is a 2jz disguised as a twin bank engine
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Sep 29, 2011 - 3:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
No it's not.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
I'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet. **** Photobucket |
Sep 29, 2011 - 7:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
3vz and 2jzge have very similar power outputs.
3vz with a stock rebuild will be better for boost than a any MZ engine with the same mods, as its stronger in stock form (not specifically the block, btw..) 1mz if built with foraged pistons and rods would be a better choice than a stock 3vz because of the fact it IS lighter -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Oct 3, 2011 - 1:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
2JZ-GE no not quite, the 3VZ-FE only makes about 150 HP and 180 TQ, the 2JZ-GE makes about 220 HP and TQ. I wont even bring the 2JZ-GTE up here
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Oct 3, 2011 - 2:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
3VZFE gets 185/189 for years 92-93. Years 94+ got 200/209 hp/tq. With no mechanical differences, only a different tune. Fixing Toyota's ****ty Y-pipe has been proven to gain you at least 20hp, bringing it up to the same as the 2JZGE.
The truck version, the 3VZE, makes 150/180. I'm biased to this motor as it is my choice for swap. I've researched it for the last 3 years or so, reading any and all build threads I could find. Back to the topic, if you want to spend the least amount of $$ on the rebuild/swap/turbo, the 3vz is the way to go as it will handle more power with a simple stock rebuild, if you choose to rebuild it even. If you are willing to spend more $$$$, go for an MZ series block and rebuild with forged pistons and rods. This setup should have the ability get you more power than the 3vzfe, AND a better power to weight ratio, making it even faster, and maintaining the better weight distribution. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Oct 3, 2011 - 3:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
335/317 wheel hp/tq on 9psi.
MR2 3VZFTE dyno run, with stock internals. 321/333 on a stock 2jzge (11psi boost?) All I did was a quick google search on both, so I may be wrong on THIS particular post. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Oct 3, 2011 - 3:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
There was no such thing as a 94+ 3VZ-FE for the US, FYI.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Oct 3, 2011 - 3:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
I know the US only had the 3VZFE in 92/93. It made it hard to find a deal on a donor car lol. The only diff was the tuning, anyway. You can import whole 94+ 3VZFEs or just use the 94+ ecu, or stand alone.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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