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had to watch it a second time haha
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had to watch it a second time haha lol next up will be boso pipes -------------------- I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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watched it but not sure what to think of it. A few weeks ago I saw an 2009 subaru with straight dual pipes, it sounded crazy loud. Get this thing on the road so we can hear it roar!
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ebay exhaust and raceland 3" electronic cutout No cats no pre silencer This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jul 14, 2011 - 4:27 PM -------------------- |
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watched it but not sure what to think of it. A few weeks ago I saw an 2009 subaru with straight dual pipes, it sounded crazy loud. Get this thing on the road so we can hear it roar! ![]() ![]() -------------------- I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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obx headers, stock cat, Vibrant Ultra Quiet resonator and straight pipes from there on out
http://youtu.be/fvsw5aJpwH0 http://youtu.be/dxiun85DKCE -------------------- ![]() 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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Ha, I'm first view on the drive-by video! Sounds super sexy.
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for those looking to go with a custom exhaust set up. Here are brand name/well known mufflers in canister form :
• HKS Hi Power, 60mm inlet, 96mm Tip Diameter, 130mm Shell Diameter (#3203EX023) • Apexi N1 Muffler, 60mm inlet, 90mm Tip Diameter, 120mm Shell Diameter (#156A008) • Greddy Ti-C Muffler, 60mm inlet, 102mm Tip Diameter, 140mm Shell Diameter (#11001006) This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 14, 2014 - 11:28 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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soo..... continuing this discussion from the beams/acis thread http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...61995&st=60 on page 4. I don't want to clutter that thread just yet
alright so building a custom exhaust system as the title says. Here is my current set up : ![]() with custom made crappy y-pipe ![]() The Y-Pipe design is harsh and doesn't allow the gradual/natural flow of the exhaust to slowly go into two pipes and then into one. My designed y-pipe is actually worse than the original oem y-pipe as shown below : ![]() Ok so now we have four different exhaust header designs as follow. So which is the best??? Fujitsubo Header according to some members ![]() ![]() Tom`s Header Wrapped ![]() ![]() Pheonix Header (however unconfirmed yet) ![]() If you take a look at this HKS and Fujitsubo exhausts you can see that they both have the same common design. Notice how the 2-1 gradually fades into one pipe. The Y-Pipe design continues after the primary 80 degree bend and then gradually into the 1 pipe. ![]() ![]() ![]() By designing an header like so, you should see an additional 2-4 ft lbs torque and 5-8hp gain.... A Y-Pipe made by a member here of an MR2 Beams engine. the 2-1 section can be improved like the hks/fujitsubo design ![]() Measurements of Stock Header and 3rd/4th Generation 3SGE B-pipe so you know the restrictions on it. The welds are not quality and restricting flow as soon as it exits cylinder head ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And what Smoothing out the Welds looks like (some members have had improved dyno results, even the 2zzge community) ![]() Section on header towards bottom where it merges from 4-2 ![]() ![]() What the 4-2 section looks like inside ![]() Right after the Oxygen Sensor Bung, its quiet small compared to the exit of the b-pipe before the catalytic converter. ![]() Length of Flex pipe ![]() After flex pipe ![]() ![]() ![]() Outer Diameter of B-pipe before catalytic converter ![]() Inner Diameter of B-pipe exit ![]() This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jan 7, 2017 - 3:19 AM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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can I ask what is wrong with the Factory extractors? Because your wanting to spend about US$850 for 1.1KW? The factory extractor type manifolds fitted the 3S-GE and BEAMS 3S-GE are very good. Toyota put some effort into the design and flow of these. I think your better off putting your money towards your BEAMS engine. rusty is right, there isnt a lot wrong with the stock extractors, the dimensions may be quite tight but they are fine for a near stock cam, the problem is and this is typical toyota the ingredients are right, the execution not so, the welds tend to be tack welds on the outside and welded on the inside, if you reweld the manifold so the welds are on the outside of the pipe, take a dremel and grind out the garbage on the inside of the pipe, so far i've found the manifolds to be really sloppy here, the design is fundementally fine, but the execution is poor. This isnt a power adder as such but will free up the engine at high revs, we found this on the beams and its also true of the newer 2zz engines where usually a ported stock manifold is better than the aftermarket ones. To make it complicated ![]() another thing I don't understand is the last paragraph edophus spoke of????? This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 6, 2011 - 3:43 AM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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another thing to note is the design of the hks and fujitsubo header. The left 3 tubes come all the way to the front. If you notice the oem design it is much different. The two right tubes come to the front of the car and are much smoother flowing. Does that have to do with the way that the engine fires each cylinder???? I mean i know two outter cylinders go first and then the two inner ones. Or is it the other way around??
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You need to look at getting a flexi for your one for starters.
Hard to tell from the angles of the photos, just how good/bad it merges, also doesn't help the example factory pipe has heatshields on. Yours might actaually have a larger diameter pipe, but again hard to tell. 'Which is the best?' All of them but depending on the situation, plus you don't give any info on them. imo a 4-1 would be good for a racing engine where the powerband is say 5,000rpm onwards. The 4-2-1 is best for us as it will make more power and torque through the entire rev range, rather than just peak power. now for the paragraph... ![]() paint ![]() (notice the left diagram the red and blue lines meet together, but on the right diagram the bottom line has a step/drop to the other line) dont worry about the top blue line on the first diagram I had a wobbly hand ![]() when you have a larger amount of cam overlap (both valves open after TDC) the piston draws from both the intake and exhaust valves and can cause the exhaust pulses to reverse. But as long as they merge as 1 & 4 and then 2 & 3 together, this will help with the exhaust pulses. It has nothing to do with which cylinder pipe is at the front or at the back, but which 2 cylinder pipes merge together. The factory set of extractors goes 1 & 4 on the right and 2 & 3 on the left. What they (HKS & Fujitsubo) have done, is swap them to the other side so: 1 & 4 now on the left and 2 & 3 now on the right. Giving it a cleaner, tidier look. It's to do with the firing order (1-3-4-2) why they merge like that Factory right side: .1......4..... Factory Left side: ......3......2 so when you get down to the last merge it goes: R...L...R...L...R...L.... -------------------- |
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obx headers, stock cat, Vibrant Ultra Quiet resonator and straight pipes from there on out http://youtu.be/fvsw5aJpwH0 http://youtu.be/dxiun85DKCE the audio in the vid is jacked right now.... at least it was for me when I just played it. Heads up. -------------------- ![]() |
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ughh let this be a lesson to all you 6gc'ers. Don't buy a glasspack resonator at all!!! I installed a 18 inch glasspack resonator on my 2.25 inch exhaust system and today I found out that I need a new one
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with a 4-1 design. Do you guys think It would be better to get an aftermarket/standalone ecu. Would the stock ecu adjust to the new exhaust piping??? Original is 4-2-1 as you all know. I have that higher final drive (or so I believe, I"ll be able to tell once I pull the transmission apart), so torque really isn't an issue....
oh ok now I understand you Rusty.... quote: "It has nothing to do with which cylinder pipe is at the front or at the back, but which 2 cylinder pipes merge together. The factory set of extractors goes 1 & 4 on the right and 2 & 3 on the left. What they (HKS & Fujitsubo) have done, is swap them to the other side so: 1 & 4 now on the left and 2 & 3 now on the right. Giving it a cleaner, tidier look." This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 25, 2011 - 2:48 AM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Just my 2 cents but I don't think it's worth getting a standalone on an NA car with a relatively stock motor...
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I just got a custom exhaust made for my Celica. HKS Hipower muffler.
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cool video. lets see the car do some takeoffs and drive by's so we can really hear what it sounds like on the road.
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Well, we made one but it's pretty terrible.
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