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post Nov 25, 2011 - 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (Ehrgeiz @ Nov 25, 2011 - 7:46 PM) *
Well, we made one but it's pretty terrible. tongue.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cb7FCBOdfU...feature=related

I'll try and shoot a better one soon.


no problem. do you think you can get a picture of the rear end of the car directly dead center. It seems like your exhaust is angled out really far to the right vs the original HKS Cat-Back ST202 factory made exhaust


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post Nov 25, 2011 - 11:42 PM
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I actually fit a flowmaster 40 series with 2 3.5" tips next to the massive 80 liter Gt-four tank...took about 5 hours if you count the downpipe and mid pipe fab aswell...



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post Nov 26, 2011 - 9:12 AM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 25, 2011 - 11:53 PM) *
QUOTE (Ehrgeiz @ Nov 25, 2011 - 7:46 PM) *
Well, we made one but it's pretty terrible. tongue.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cb7FCBOdfU...feature=related

I'll try and shoot a better one soon.


no problem. do you think you can get a picture of the rear end of the car directly dead center. It seems like your exhaust is angled out really far to the right vs the original HKS Cat-Back ST202 factory made exhaust


Yeah, it's quite angled. But I kinda like it, it's not that extreme. This is the best I could do:



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post Dec 2, 2011 - 11:10 AM
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Thinking about to get an exhaust for my ST205.
What would u recommend to me?


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post Dec 24, 2011 - 1:27 AM
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Hope I can get some help on a couple questions.

Im gonna be running a non boosted 5SFE and see how much NA power I can get. Mainly, im starting with exhaust and intake. with exhaust, it sounds like you should run 2.25 - 2.5. I would like the low end kick but also want good power gain inthe high range as well. which (between the 2.25 and 2.5) is better for something like that? if neither, is there a happy medium between them like 2.38? (yes thats the rounded median, you can call me a nerd lol) and also I want a exhaust note with low rumble and sounds really mean when you hit the gas. My sister's boyfriend has a Contour SVT that has dual magnaflow canisters that sound sinster as hell (not the best example since contours of any kind are not the first things that come to mind when you think of 'sexy sports car' but thats all the exposure in my family that I have to tuning) but what are good mufflers and resonators for that kind of sound and performance? thanks for any responces about this!
post Dec 26, 2011 - 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 24, 2011 - 2:27 AM) *
Hope I can get some help on a couple questions.

Im gonna be running a non boosted 5SFE and see how much NA power I can get. Mainly, im starting with exhaust and intake. with exhaust, it sounds like you should run 2.25 - 2.5. I would like the low end kick but also want good power gain inthe high range as well. which (between the 2.25 and 2.5) is better for something like that? if neither, is there a happy medium between them like 2.38? (yes thats the rounded median, you can call me a nerd lol) and also I want a exhaust note with low rumble and sounds really mean when you hit the gas. My sister's boyfriend has a Contour SVT that has dual magnaflow canisters that sound sinster as hell (not the best example since contours of any kind are not the first things that come to mind when you think of 'sexy sports car' but thats all the exposure in my family that I have to tuning) but what are good mufflers and resonators for that kind of sound and performance? thanks for any responces about this!

You'll keep more of your low end with the 2.25
as far as muffler go with the Magna flow slot of.people like the sound
I'm running my 5s with a eBay header an 2.5 with the cat an resonator deleted with a big fart can
Kinda high pitch but I could defiantly feel a difference over stock
But I would leave in eather a high flow cat or a resonator matched to what ever size pipe you run
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post Dec 26, 2011 - 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 26, 2011 - 11:21 PM) *
QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 24, 2011 - 2:27 AM) *
Hope I can get some help on a couple questions.

Im gonna be running a non boosted 5SFE and see how much NA power I can get. Mainly, im starting with exhaust and intake. with exhaust, it sounds like you should run 2.25 - 2.5. I would like the low end kick but also want good power gain inthe high range as well. which (between the 2.25 and 2.5) is better for something like that? if neither, is there a happy medium between them like 2.38? (yes thats the rounded median, you can call me a nerd lol) and also I want a exhaust note with low rumble and sounds really mean when you hit the gas. My sister's boyfriend has a Contour SVT that has dual magnaflow canisters that sound sinster as hell (not the best example since contours of any kind are not the first things that come to mind when you think of 'sexy sports car' but thats all the exposure in my family that I have to tuning) but what are good mufflers and resonators for that kind of sound and performance? thanks for any responces about this!

You'll keep more of your low end with the 2.25
as far as muffler go with the Magna flow slot of.people like the sound
I'm running my 5s with a eBay header an 2.5 with the cat an resonator deleted with a big fart can
Kinda high pitch but I could defiantly feel a difference over stock
But I would leave in eather a high flow cat or a resonator matched to what ever size pipe you run
Good luck hope that helped


Okay thank you for the info! and how much low end would I lose if I went with 2.5? and alot of people seem to like the obx evo2 muffler and thats what I have been thinking and put down on my grocery list. any thought on this? and what ebay headers do you recommend? One that seems pretty nice is made by KOSpeed but there are quite a few and im not sure which are rice and which are nice.

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post Dec 26, 2011 - 11:19 PM
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I can remember witch one I got but I cost around 90 bucks an I know there were a few cheaper but there were better ones too I don't think the drop in low end will be that much
If anything I think it helped mine I couldn't leavethe line at the strip without rather burning tires or being way out of my power band
I like my 2.5 island much about what muffler sounds vest sorry


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post Dec 27, 2011 - 10:35 AM
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dont have to apolojize, youve given me info and your best opinion. and how the muffler sounds.... well, isn't that why we are blessed with ears and sound clips on youtube? lol
post Dec 27, 2011 - 7:06 PM
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QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 27, 2011 - 10:35 AM) *
dont have to apolojize, youve given me info and your best opinion. and how the muffler sounds.... well, isn't that why we are blessed with ears and sound clips on youtube? lol

Lots of videos have messed up sound because the recording device is **** though lol


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post Dec 27, 2011 - 8:53 PM
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QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Dec 27, 2011 - 7:06 PM) *
QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 27, 2011 - 10:35 AM) *
dont have to apolojize, youve given me info and your best opinion. and how the muffler sounds.... well, isn't that why we are blessed with ears and sound clips on youtube? lol

Lots of videos have messed up sound because the recording device is **** though lol


Thats a good point. . . well let me re-pharse then:

'well, isnt that why we are blessed with ears and SOME sound clips on youtube?'
post Dec 30, 2011 - 1:43 PM
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I just contacted an exhaust shop and they said for custom exhaust piping made of aluminized steel they would charge me ~$400. Does this sound about right, and I told them Id supply my own resonator, header, and muffler. And what are some reputable exhaust shops in twin cities area, minnesota beside Full Blown Motorsports (The one I just contacted)
post Dec 30, 2011 - 4:47 PM
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I don't know what prices around you are normally like but that seems super high to me
Mine was only 150 an I supplied the muffler
I had already put my header on so that dropped it some but still 400 sounds high


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post Dec 30, 2011 - 5:06 PM
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QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 30, 2011 - 1:43 PM) *
I just contacted an exhaust shop and they said for custom exhaust piping made of aluminized steel they would charge me ~$400. Does this sound about right, and I told them Id supply my own resonator, header, and muffler. And what are some reputable exhaust shops in twin cities area, minnesota beside Full Blown Motorsports (The one I just contacted)


HAAAAAAAAILLLL NO!!!! $400 for aluminized steel!!!!wtf.. at that point i would try to get some one like Presure2 here on the forums to do the exhaust for a bit more.. he does great work, and i know that he recently was looking onto the possibility of exhaust fabrication for the more popular types of setups.. i don't claim to know his schedule or available time, but he has supported this community allot and "stands by his exhausts" and his commitment to quality is of the best!!! and it would be in SS.. check this out

just saying, if you are providing all the parts (well almost all) and all they have to do is weld it together... $400 is way too much.. pretty much they are charging you$75 an hour and the remaining aluminized steel...


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QUOTE (mandrek @ Dec 30, 2011 - 5:06 PM) *
QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 30, 2011 - 1:43 PM) *
I just contacted an exhaust shop and they said for custom exhaust piping made of aluminized steel they would charge me ~$400. Does this sound about right, and I told them Id supply my own resonator, header, and muffler. And what are some reputable exhaust shops in twin cities area, minnesota beside Full Blown Motorsports (The one I just contacted)


HAAAAAAAAILLLL NO!!!! $400 for aluminized steel!!!!wtf.. at that point i would try to get some one like Presure2 here on the forums to do the exhaust for a bit more.. he does great work, and i know that he recently was looking onto the possibility of exhaust fabrication for the more popular types of setups.. i don't claim to know his schedule or available time, but he has supported this community allot and "stands by his exhausts" and his commitment to quality is of the best!!! and it would be in SS.. check this out

just saying, if you are providing all the parts (well almost all) and all they have to do is weld it together... $400 is way too much.. pretty much they are charging you$75 an hour and the remaining aluminized steel...


Okay thank you so much for showing me this, youve been alot of help the past few days or so, its been tough around here and really feels like s*** is coming undone over here so im glad people on this forum are so willing to help, it means alot. And I did forget to mention the fact that im thinking of HEADER back, not cat back lol cuz my goals are to get as much horsepower I can to the point where if I wanted anymore, I would HAVE to turbo or swap. Is it a huge difference between header back and cat back performance wise? Again, thanks for all the help!
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Mine was 150 header back i had already put my header on an they did the rest
I'd think anything over 200-250 would be too high


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post Dec 31, 2011 - 1:38 AM
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QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 31, 2011 - 1:17 AM) *
Mine was 150 header back i had already put my header on an they did the rest
I'd think anything over 200-250 would be too high


Oh yours was header back?? WTF? there is one shop thats at thats border line, they said under axle they said would probably be 250 but they said they need to get the car on a lift and look at it and they're a half hour away!! its so bogus, Im kinda hating minnesota alot right now.... Things could be worse but I need a little slack right now... im still just focusing on praying for my car to be okay. but thank you for this information and your willingness to help, I really appreciate it, hope I can do the same someday to repay you guys. what do you think I should do? cuz I have absolutely no idea.... it isnt like I can just go anywhere and get a header back system on some website like ebay.

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Id check all the local shops an see how much it is to get it done
Mine was over axle not under
If you have the spare time and tools changing the header out isnt that hard
If you cant find anywhere cheaper call that shop back an have them look at it
Oh an when i had mine done i had it tucked up close to the bottom of the car since i wasnt sure how much i was going to lower it
So i had it ran tight so it was actually higher than the low spots in the floor boards
Dont know what your full plans but thats something else youvmight want to think about


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post Dec 31, 2011 - 2:51 AM
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QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 31, 2011 - 3:41 AM) *
Id check all the local shops an see how much it is to get it done
Mine was over axle not under
If you have the spare time and tools changing the header out isnt that hard
If you cant find anywhere cheaper call that shop back an have them look at it
Oh an when i had mine done i had it tucked up close to the bottom of the car since i wasnt sure how much i was going to lower it
So i had it ran tight so it was actually higher than the low spots in the floor boards
Dont know what your full plans but thats something else youvmight want to think about


Thinking of lowering at leats 2 inches, maybe 3, and want under axle cuz its less bends and less resistance. why did you go over the axle? and ill look into installing the header myself, what header are you running? thinking of the OBX header they have up for $180 kindasad.gif (it seems the most legit and still have good access to oil filter) Theres just a bunch so just not sure what else to go with.

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I wouldn't suggest you let ANY shops do any exhaust work. From my experience they are pretty useless unless they have a mandrel bender that can handle stainless steel piping and an actual WELDER working there. I made the mistake of having a shop make me a downpipe, they said aluminized steel would be best(i said i wanted stainless, they refused kindasad.gif ) The bends were mediocre at best and the weld job was so HORRIBLE i actually walked up to the person welding and their manager and told them to allow me to weld it (they weren't happy, lol). Then they proceeded to charge me $200 for it. So i made sure to let them know i would be spreading the word about their handy work. biggrin.gif

Maybe its just the shops ive been to but the people are lazy, inexperienced and overcharge to the max. Or maybe my standards are too high? I just expected them to fab me a downpipe that wouldn't leak and wasn't welded in the same place 5 times to cover a single seam. Is that too much to ask? (They failed too.) Come to think of it when i had my tires put on and alignment done, they underinflated my tires and took my celica for a joyride. mad.gif

Undecided, If anything i would suggest you map out the way you want your exhaust system to be mounted. Buy the exhaust tubing you need, cut and do a mock fit up. Then bring it to a friend that has a welder and have them weld it up. It will be much cheaper that way if your only spending money on the parts and giving a friend some cash for the work. You can buy stainless or aluminized U-bends, J-bends, UJ- bends, 45deg, 60deg and 90deg bends and straight piping online. And if you can't find anyone, and you're willing to drive to appleton on a weekend, let me know before hand and im sure i can weld it for you. I have a Miller MIG welder i used to cover up the shops welds. tongue.gif
Right now i can't work on mine so i might as well help others anyway i can.

Btw, There are quite a few members that use the "ebay" header and have great success with them. No need to spend $180 on a $100 header unless its for preference cause in the end unless specified, they are all stainless.

Hope this helps,

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