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LOL!!! that's what I thought when I saw the pics too.

Get the engine to turn over, check compression, if compression is good it should run. Might need to clean the VVT system filters out.

Hey! Be nice! Dead Celicas have feelings too!! Those original pictures I posted were taken last year at some point, when the car still looked as good at a 7th gen possibly can. Before any animal collisions. The guy just wanted some pictures so I turned on all the lights I could and handed him a camera and those are what he came up with. Now you see how the car looks today.

Seriously though, lights off.



Yeah.... she's locked up tight as a drum. On the plus side, I got the starter to do more than just one loud click. Downside is I'm pretty sure either the starter or the flex plate just got some teeth ground off. Turning it over by hand didn't work either.

So I drained the oil to see if there was any water. It was all black and water free, fortunately. Downside is it's locked up for a different reason. I just can't figure out why right now. Although I'm sure this can't help...




Let's see here... Subtract 119,760 from 136,643.... Add 3,000 to it for the useful life of the oil... Yeah, it was definitely at 19,883 miles on this oil change. Whoops.

I had initially bought this car with every intention of getting rid of it at this point, knowing this motor cannot be turned over. However... I'm moving at the end of the month and I was intending to change job sites, but I'm now being bribed to stay where I am. If they can get me the money, I'll be driving 130 miles a day. 130 miles a day in the IS 300 isn't exactly my idea of fun, nor is it anyone's idea of cheap. Suddenly, this car is looking more tempting to me. I've gotten oddly good at removing S series engines, unfortunately. The 2ZZ looks more complicated to me but according to Smaay, is easier. I know he knows his stuff so what have I got to lose by trying? This car is screwed anyway. It won't hurt me to try pulling the motor out. I've already got the hoist in my garage, after all, not put away from the last BEAMS swap. I might pull the car into the garage tomorrow and tear into it.

Just drop in a beams you got like what 10 of them now

Well, the 2ZZ auto isn't the best highway miler either honestly. I think I get in the low 30's...mid to low 20's around town. Though I do have a heavy foot in the Celica.

I'd love to feel a 7th gen with BEAMS power. Because the 2ZZ revs so high, it has very little low end torque like the BEAMS, which has 17 hp and 20-ish lb ft of torque more. Except for the fact that the BEAMS is heavier, I'd love to feel the 7th gen with that in the bay. According to Puretone, it would be "straight up gangster to hang a BEAMS in the bay." Nonetheless, the 2ZZ is much easier to find, info us readily available, and I doubt if I'll even swap in a 6 speed.

if ur gonna get a beams in there u might as well 3sgte it too.. newcelica has writeups for it I believe

Nah, no BEAMS for me. I'd love to get this car running again but even after I spend $2k to get a new 2ZZ, I'll need to buy a new hood and bumper and I'd buy new headlights and taillights as well. It's a money pit for sure, and I'm not even that fond of 7th gens. I'd gladly spend the money for a 6th gen (though anyone who has read my progress thread knows that I had pretty much exactly the same car in a 6th gen and never did anything with it.) But a 7th gen just doesn't have the same appeal to me. I just really prefer the feel of a 6th gen. So I may never get this car running again. It'd be cool if I do but if I do, I definitely won't do anything custom. I won't even fix it up so a $1k 1ZZ will get it running. Even that takes too much effort. If I get it running again, it will be as simply as possible.

Side note, the car doesn't like going into park. Apparently it was stuck in park when Quinten went to load it up and get it to the mechanic, so he pulled on the shifter as hard as possible until it broke free. Now I can grab the shifter and pull it into any gear, any time, without the brake. Normally, I wouldn't care. The issue is that since the car won't fully go into park and stay there, I can't turn the key all the way off. It's stuck on accessory. I'm not familiar enough with auto transmissions, nor do I care to be, but I kinda need to figure out if that's a broken pin inside the transmission or if that's something inside the car. I just need to figure out a way to turn the key off.

check the shifter linkage that goes on the outside of the gearbox that selects gears. There is a bushing there *usually* that might be made of plastic. This is really starting to look like it sucks though man......

He didn't push on the shifter release? What a noob. You probably have a broken linkage at the tranny end. Does it even feel attached, or does it float to any gear really easy? If it's easy to move, and wont go into park, that's because the cable is smacking the broken end at the tranny that is still in park. Go to the front of the tranny and look for a L shaped lever with a cable running off of it and examine the cable. Also see if the lever moves by hand (maybe it's seized, since this guy was such a doof when it came to maintenance.)

Eh, part the car. You have limited time and money and it needs alot of ****.

I might offer on the 3rd brake light (if it's not tinted),the front/rear seats, and intake.

he forced the automatic gear lever until it broke?

He said he pushed the shift release and brake, tested the steering wheel lock, and rocked the car back and forth but it was jammed in park. Finally has to yank it out of park. The shift linkage is definitely still connected but the ignition doesn't recognize that the car is in park. Weird.

Jordan- limited time is precisely why I won't part the car out. I'll live an hour and a half from the car soon, so a partout is impossible for me. If I get rid of it, those parts are yours.

No BEAMS will go in this car. It's a cool idea but not worth the effort to me. If I put a new motor in it, it will be a 2ZZ with an automatic. It's literally not even worth the effort to me to drop a 6 speed in. I could get a 1ZZ for half as much as a 2ZZ but even then sourcing a different motor mount and the other little tweaks are too much effort.

I really might get started pulling this motor out tomorrow. Sell it for scrap metal to recoup some of the cost of the car or something, but mostly just to have the experience.

Wow
Gut it for what you want for the beams then sell what you can an scrap the leftovers
think theres just too much wrong to be worth while

Never said it was a good car That's literally all that's wrong with the car, mechanically. Seized motor and stupid shifter. It's an auto anyway, so it was broken before the car was ever manufactured

Nah, put the block up on newcelica.org, someone would take it for parts and you'd get more than the scrap weight since its an aluminum block. I'd help you yank it if you were closer. Good practice since I'd like to swap to a 6sp at some point.

sounds like it could be a transmission problem honestly, could of warped the flywheel when he ran through the big ass puddle. this could be why the motor seems locked up, in know from experience that a bad transmission/flywheel can really piss off an engine

If I was there I'd totally give you a hand with taking apart the engine... come to think of it im in hinsdale lol just noticed ur in illinois

just checked the map! holy crap 320 miles lol

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jan 12, 2012 - 8:19 PM

Not so much with an automatic.

Could very well be. It's worth checking out. I may start pulling the motor tomorrow if I don't have anything else going on. If I do, I'll pull the motor and tranny apart. Or it might be like Bitter said, might not be anything since its an auto. However, a flex plate is thinner than a flywheel so it could warp or bend easier.



Lol yeah, I'm in the forgotten half of Illinois that isn't anywhere near Chicago. Not in Paraguay at the moment? If it wasn't 320 miles, I'd say a meet would be cool, 7th gen engine pull or not.