need help choosing camber kit, its for a civic...please show mercy >.> |
need help choosing camber kit, its for a civic...please show mercy >.> |
Jan 25, 2012 - 1:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Alright guys so here is the deal. My wife's got a 99 Civic that we purchased about a year ago. It was lowered with no camber kit and from what I can tell the springs were heated. Needless to say she is now in need of tires. Before I shell out for that though I want to fix the issue by installing front/rear camber kit. I can't stand honda forums, just a different vibe on them. Lots of bashing and biased opinions which is why i'm asking here.
This car is used to drive back and forth to work and the occasional road trip. That being said I don't see the need to spend $400 on a high end setup that is designed for track use. On the flip side I don't feel comfortable purchasing a no name kit on ebay that will potentially fail down the line. I found a brand "VMS Racing" on amazon and also ebay but can't find too many reviews on their camber kits. On Amazon they have the front/rear kit for $129.99. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I was also looking at the OBX kits. They "look" solid and i've read mixed reviews from the honda forums. Full kit can be had for about $140. After these two brands the price shoots up to $200 and over. I'd like to be at $150 or so but if need be i'll by the front and rear seperate and get the better stuff. Let me know what you guys think. -------------------- |
Jan 25, 2012 - 2:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Ill have to look up the kit i had on my 98 but it only cost me 80 an it replaced the whole upper a arm up front
Mine was dropped almost 4inchs an it brought the tires back out straight As for the back dont waste your money on a kit just buy longer bolts an a couple hands full of washers an put washers in until it looks right Ill have to look up the kit i had on my 98 but it only cost me 80 an it replaced the whole upper a arm up front Mine was dropped almost 4inchs an it brought the tires back out straight As for the back dont waste your money on a kit just buy longer bolts an a couple hands full of washers an put washers in until it looks right -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Jan 25, 2012 - 2:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?it...nid=79795677796
This is the kit i had but only in blue It worked great -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Jan 25, 2012 - 3:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?it...nid=79795677796 This is the kit i had but only in blue It worked great How did it hold up? I was looking at kits like this but worried they wouldn't hold up for too long. -------------------- |
Jan 25, 2012 - 5:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Its been almost 2 years with no problems
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Jan 25, 2012 - 8:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '08 From Penn Valley,Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I don't run camber kits on any of my civic's(3 all of them moderately lowered). What really destorys the tires is the toe not being in spec. It might be more cost efficient for you to just get stock springs if it's a daily to get the car back to stock height(could be found at pick n pull or craigslist for dirt cheap I'd imagine). My gripe with aftermarket front camber kits is the ball joints are terrible, and will fail rather fast.
Don't forget to check the bushings if the car has lots of miles. -------------------- |
Jan 25, 2012 - 9:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I don't run camber kits on any of my civic's(3 all of them moderately lowered). What really destorys the tires is the toe not being in spec. It might be more cost efficient for you to just get stock springs if it's a daily to get the car back to stock height(could be found at pick n pull or craigslist for dirt cheap I'd imagine). My gripe with aftermarket front camber kits is the ball joints are terrible, and will fail rather fast. Don't forget to check the bushings if the car has lots of miles. To give you an idea of how low it is...you can't stick your fingers in the wheel wells, the tire blocks it. There is so much negative camber in the rear the inside of the tires are bald after jus t under 12kthe miles. Standing behind the car you can see the camber. Also looking directly at the side of the tire the far outside isn't even touching the ground. Ill see if I can grab some pics real quick to give you an idea. Not saying your wrong just wanna make sure you have all the info. Plus id hate to buy a camber kit just to find I needed a toe kit. -------------------- |
Jan 25, 2012 - 10:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Sounds just like my old civic a camber kit will help but youll never get the back perfect
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Jan 25, 2012 - 10:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '05 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
if you need a good quality one, just got for Ingalls. I have a set on my EP3 right now and after 8 years the bushings are just starting to wear out in the rear. I'm gonna replace em with some skunk2s just cuz I got a brand new set for $50 off a guy i know who used to work there.
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Jan 26, 2012 - 12:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Sorry no pics...was too dark outside for anything to come out half way decent
if you need a good quality one, just got for Ingalls. I have a set on my EP3 right now and after 8 years the bushings are just starting to wear out in the rear. I'm gonna replace em with some skunk2s just cuz I got a brand new set for $50 off a guy i know who used to work there. 8 years is a really good run. I was looking into Ingalls as one of my options. I may have to reconsider them now. -------------------- |
Jan 26, 2012 - 2:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Think id go with the ingalls they sound good
Or just replace the springs with it being a dd unless you like the hight. -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Jan 26, 2012 - 8:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '05 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
that was 8 years including 5 winter driving in really salty Canadian roads for 4 months of the year.
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Jan 27, 2012 - 10:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '08 From Penn Valley,Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Here's one of my cars(Don't let the 13's deceive you)
The reason I brought up toe is because when you lower the car it toes out. This post has been edited by epocsirhc: Jan 27, 2012 - 10:20 PM -------------------- |
Jan 27, 2012 - 11:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Nice looking hatch
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Jan 28, 2012 - 12:03 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Heres a pic of my old civic as you can see the front camber is pretty good for being dropped almost 4inchs -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Jan 29, 2012 - 11:57 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '07 From Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I have SPC for the back and really like them, but I've heard Ingals is also one of the best camber kits you can get.
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Jan 29, 2012 - 2:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Heres a pic of my old civic as you can see the front camber is pretty good for being dropped almost 4inchs Wife is totally hating your blue civic. If she had her way thats the color she would want hers. I had to go out and take a similar pic -------------------- |
Jan 29, 2012 - 4:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Hell i would of rather had hers lol
Shes got a goid lookin civic -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Feb 3, 2012 - 10:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I don't run camber kits on any of my civic's(3 all of them moderately lowered). What really destorys the tires is the toe not being in spec. It might be more cost efficient for you to just get stock springs if it's a daily to get the car back to stock height(could be found at pick n pull or craigslist for dirt cheap I'd imagine). My gripe with aftermarket front camber kits is the ball joints are terrible, and will fail rather fast. Don't forget to check the bushings if the car has lots of miles. You were right on this one. Got the car aligned today and the toe was horrible. I think it was about 2.6 degrees off in total for the front and about .8 total in rear. I ended up getting the SPC front upper control arm and the VMS racing rear links. Found a guy selling a set of Teins for a 92-95 civic so i purchased them. My research showed they will fit but the spring rate was different. For 50 bucks I figured I couldn't really go wrong. Oddly enough the car sits in about the same position as it did. I am really glad I swapped them though. The stock heated springs were really bad. Thought you guys would get a kick out of it so I snapped a pic of what it looked like outside the car. Thanks for everyone for the advice! Consequences of heated springs (all four were like this): -------------------- |
Feb 5, 2012 - 1:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '08 From Penn Valley,Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I'm glad you got rid of those springs!
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