My CEL Complex (EGR Related) |
My CEL Complex (EGR Related) |
Jan 3, 2012 - 7:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 13, '09 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have been doing a lot of research on how all these components I describe work, and I feel it could be a common problem to the average car customizer. I am probably over looking a solution or my case is very specific:
I have a 98 Celica GT and last winter I put new custom cams from Delta Cams, bought the eBay header, straight piped the cat, and added a Flowmaster Hushflow muffler. I kept the diameter of the exhaust stock. Shortly after doing all these mods I started getting a CEL for EGR insufficient flow and one for EGR excessive flow and also a intermittent rough idle. As usual, I checked the functionality of the EGR valve and noticed it was sticking open so I cleaned it up, tried again, same outcome. I replaced with a new OEM one. Then my next idea was to check the VSV. Sure enough it had a small leak when I tried to create a vacuum on it and replaced that with new OEM. Now I only get EGR insufficient flow and rough idle is less often. I started reading about the EGR and what the computer looks for to signal the insuffiecient flow and see it looks at MAP sensor (functioned fine). However I read aout needing back pressure to get the exhaust gasses back up into the intake and was wondering if that is my cause that I do not have enough back pressure which would show a vacuum still by the MAP sensor and signal computer that EGR didn't open enough even though it did. I feel modders would have this problem frequently and was wondering what they do typically to resolve it or do you just accept it and carry on? Thanks for reading, Brad (Long time reader, short time poster) |
Jan 3, 2012 - 11:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
I'm not sure about a 96+ but for the 94-95 just put the 2 egr temp wires together and that usually does the trick.
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Jan 4, 2012 - 10:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i have been fighting the same CEL for years, i havent checked the VSV but ill do that when i put the engine back in the car.
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Jan 4, 2012 - 6:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 13, '09 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Batman there are no temp wires on my EGR unfortunately. Thanks tho. Anyone else got some tips or shady mechanics haha
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Jan 6, 2012 - 6:19 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 13, '09 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Also I took a freeze frame of my system when the CEL came on one time. Here:
Global OBDII Non OBD Freeze Frame Frame 1 Mod $10 TROUB CODE P0401 ENG SPEED RPM 3023 CALC LOAD % 63.5 MAP KPA 64 COOLANT F 199 IAT F 60 ST FTRM1 % -7.7 LT FTRM1 % 4.6 ST FTRM3 % 88.2 LT FTRM3 % -99.3 VEH SPEED MPH 60 FUEL SYS 1 CLSD FUEL SYS 2 N/A Global OBDII Non OBDCodes DTCs P0401 Mod $10 EGR Flow Insufficient Global OBDII Non OBDCodes Pending DTCs P0401 Mod $10 <PENDING> EGR Flow Insufficient |
Feb 24, 2012 - 2:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '10 From Davenport, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
for a year i was pulling a p0401 replaced everything (egr valve, vacuum modulator, vsv and all rubber hosing) it turned out to be excessive carbon where the tube to the egr valve connects to the exhaust on the exhaust side not in the tube itself. 1 month now without a CEL on
(not my pic) mechanic said a literal wall of carbon built up in the inside of the head where the tube connects, after cleaning it out i haven't had a p0401 CEL since This post has been edited by b22ri22an: Feb 24, 2012 - 2:52 AM -------------------- |
Apr 14, 2012 - 10:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 13, '09 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey everyone,
I have been busy at work with no time to update this until now. b22ri22an my head was off recently and thoroughly cleaned. I just checked minutes ago and there is still no blockage due to carbon where you suggested. Sp I am still where I left off. Anyone else have any input or things they have succeeded with? Much appreciated! |
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