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^^^^ get stainless steel braided lines. rebuild your calipers (depends on your car mileage??)

abs is awesome( keeps you from locking up brakes on sudden stops)

unless you track your car I'd say keep your abs??

Even most track cars have ABS...shoot LM GT cars have ABS....its stupid not to have it.
I'm converting TO ABS..

This ^^

Im pretty set on deleting mine since it doesnt work

I have the part numbers for the delete I'll check for them when I get home. I did it to my celi when i swapped in the 3s. It's a lot easier with the motor out but can be done with the motor in. Just need non-abs Lines and master cylinder.

This post has been edited by Ted95: May 7, 2012 - 10:06 AM

To get ABS when you have a non-ABS setup, just get into the habit of pumping your brakes when you have to stop fast.
I swapped to non-ABS and when I do have to stop fast, my wheels don't lock up. It's fine in the rain as well, but just watch out for sand patches cause those are what will get you from time to time. Just make sure you have grippy tires that aren't almost bald and you'll be fine.

Who needs ABS.

Its called "threshold braking".

ABS is for the inexperienced drivers who panic and slam on the brakes as an initial reaction.

you silly canadian

It's so true.

What's scary is driving a 50's or 60's car that weighs 5,000 pounds with manual drum brakes. Learn to bring that to a stop, and you'll be good in anything else.

i'm with playr158 on this one. a car with ABS will be able to keep each tire at their peak braking limits, even when the slip conditions per wheel vary between left/right and front/rear, especially during cornering where the inner wheels are most likely to slip first during braking.
one reason not to have it is to have that feeling of being "one with the machine" without any electronic driving assistance.

I just don't want to keep buying ABS sensors and since it doesn't work... I'm removing it lol

Non-ABS part #'s.. i dont remember if the master part number is in this list, i think its just brake lines

47201-2B090

47318-20350

47313-20700

47311-2B120

47371-20540

90904-13009

Thanks for the info ted

Well I want to add ABS at some point. The rear wheels lose traction alot faster than the front and ABS would balance that out.

btw, TC gear will fit our cars too...

Just got a set of caliper, brackets, pads, and rotors for a TC. I'll post up later after install.

TC bracket bolted right on.

almost the same size.


ST on top, TC on bottom


pads and bracket for ST on left, TC on right


new brakes.


The bracket for my ST brakes and the bracket for the TC had the same sliding pin rust and lock in place. I had to clean this out prior to fitting. Probably the cause for horrible brakes before.

Time for some TC brake upgrades (once I find the weakness in these)

The ST205 have four pot calipers and ventilated 315mm discs in front and two pot (floating) calipers in rear (also 315mm discs)

The ST205 brakes is really good actually.