 My Daily, Thread for my DD Celica |
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 May 15, 2012 - 5:10 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined May 3, '11 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%)  |
it doesn't REQUIRE premium fuel as the ECU will detune over time.... you won't be as much power... maybe -3hp. hatchy-gts is beams and 87 octane all day
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May 15, 2012 - 5:18 PM
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ May 15, 2012 - 5:04 PM)  You guys are not factoring in that the beams requires premium fuel. I would take a v6 over a beams ANY day. Way more power and torque down low and overall, more readily available parts, can run 87....Yes please. Big picture, Andrew. Big picture. He HAS a V6 Celica already. BEAMS has more power than the 1MZ and 3VZ, though admittedly less torque. Besides, which do YOU want? A BEAMS in your Celica or another 7A? 
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May 15, 2012 - 5:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ May 15, 2012 - 3:18 PM) QUOTE (SupraKid @ May 15, 2012 - 5:04 PM) You guys are not factoring in that the beams requires premium fuel. I would take a v6 over a beams ANY day. Way more power and torque down low and overall, more readily available parts, can run 87....Yes please. Big picture, Andrew. Big picture. He HAS a V6 Celica already. BEAMS has more power than the 1MZ and 3VZ, though admittedly less torque. Besides, which do YOU want? A BEAMS in your Celica or another 7A? At 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999rpm for half a second it does, but the v6s are making their power throughout the power band, so it would feel MUCH more powerful(until higher RPM of course).And yes you can run the beams on 87 but you will lose MPG, making it just as expensive as 91(in CA). And I'm sure as Mr. Richee knows all too well, parts for a rare engine like the beams add up REAL fast. Beams are unique, but not the smartest option for a DD by any means. (In my opinion of course) EDIT: Just went and found some graphs: A/T stock 1mz:  Modified beams with an AEM EMS: 
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May 15, 2012 - 6:51 PM
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ May 15, 2012 - 4:07 PM) The BEAMS has a couple more hp than a 1MZ, but significantly less torque. And as Stephen and bloodMoney have enlightened me, the torque curve of a V6 is much much better than a 4 cylinder. Truthfully, once the V6 swap is covered a little more widely, I'm strongly considering pulling my BEAMS and throwing a 1MZ in the Celica. From my earlier post. I fully admit that a V6 is a superior engine to the BEAMS  And you still didn't answer my question. Given the choice between a stock ST or a BEAMS-swapped Celica, which are you going to choose? Parts for the BEAMS aren't bad. 95% of any part you will ever need can come from a 1ZZ.
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May 15, 2012 - 7:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Still, 34 highway on premium is cheaper than 26 highway on regular. Especially save money in city driving where the V6 really hurts you. Still, rather have BEAMS purely for mpg and convenience. **** it, drop in a 350.
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May 16, 2012 - 8:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
This debate is getting pretty interesting..
the v6 will kill any 4cyl in torque. even if its a 2.4l v6 opposed to a 2.4l I4.. simply the way the engine is designed (a v6 will start a power stroke every 120* compared to every 180* making a smoother power band and lesss "negative" torque when the engine needs the inertia of the rotating mass to keep turning..) but in the end, less displacement = more MPG. i can baby the 4cyl and get 40 mpg. or baby the v6 and get 25mpg. are we overlooking the fact i HAVE A V6 CELICA ALREADY? lol i have one celica to haul ass in, and one i drive everyday... i want good MPG but a little more pep than the 7a or 5s can give me... acceleration is pretty important in houston traffic -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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May 16, 2012 - 2:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (stephen_lee @ May 16, 2012 - 8:06 AM) are we overlooking the fact i HAVE A V6 CELICA ALREADY? lol i have one celica to haul ass in, and one i drive everyday... i want good MPG but a little more pep than the 7a or 5s can give me... acceleration is pretty important in houston traffic Why do you think I keep saying to BEAMS it? 
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Jun 6, 2012 - 5:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
actually considering giving this car to my little brother who is just about to get his license and buying an LS400 instead... having a baby soon and the wife is complaining the celica is too low lol.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jun 10, 2012 - 11:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Pffft, tell her to get better at getting low then.
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Jun 11, 2012 - 8:48 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
hahah shes plenty good
 buut with a beachball hiding under her shirt its pretty hard to bend down to get in or out of the car. Anyway the celica has been feeling a little cramped since before she got pregnant. atleast im not going CHEVY like she wanted we compromised on the lexus
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jun 11, 2012 - 9:18 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Well theres your problem
Tell to stop hiding a beach ball in her shirt an it wont be too low then lol Altho if she feels the need to hide one under there have her push it up alil higher But then she has to put 2 up her shirt so she wont be off balanced
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Jun 11, 2012 - 11:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Lexus is nice. But once you're done getting coil-overs and all for it...
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Jun 23, 2012 - 8:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
well just got a near mint 94 LS400 for $800
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jun 24, 2012 - 10:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Hoooman. Nice pickup for that cheap haha.
I'd still rather the SC400
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Aug 7, 2012 - 8:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
LS400 is powerful. i like
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Aug 7, 2012 - 8:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jun 23, 2012 - 8:18 PM) well just got a near mint 94 LS400 for $800 Say what? What a steal! -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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