 My 1MZ progress thread |
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 Oct 22, 2012 - 3:01 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%)  |
i havent noticed any issues with a CG or weight transfer. the 1MZ weighs just about the same as a 3S-GTE and the E153 was designed to be in there. remember its the same trans as the ST205 tranny without the transfer case.
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 3:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 29, '09 From Gainesville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
If I didn't have a 3s sitting about 15 feet away, I'd be doing one of these.
It truly is an appealing swap I wish was done back when I was making large paypal transfers! Swap looks nice! |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 4:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
you could always sell the 3S and make some of your money back. the way i see it, you could buy a complete 1MZ with ECU and harness for about 7-800. 400 for the wiring work, 200 at most for an intake, and maybe 300 at most for some fab work for the engine mount and an axle carrier if you use the S54 trans and axles. thats a total of 1700
oops i forgot to add exhaust work. probably another 500 to build a Y pipe and down pipe. depends on where you go. This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 22, 2012 - 4:02 PM -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 4:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
If you find a good parts car you could do it cheaper than that
I figured this time my swap with my new 1mz would have cost 12-1400 Compared to the almost 2200 right now (not including the new motor) -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235  n |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 5:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
^^^ yep, i just searched car-part.com until i found a good engine close to me. i actually went to a junkyard in Bakersfield (about 80 miles away) just for the axle carrier bracket and I ended up buyine the entire 3MZ engine from a Sienna. it had really low miles, the harness, and ECU for 700 bucks! cant beat that!
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 5:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I paid 350 for the 98 avalon with 152,000 miles an just had all major maintaince done before her daughter hit a deer. Oh an I drove it home lol
-------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235 n |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 6:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '11 From Sydney Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've seen your 1MZ teardown thread, but is there one i missed about how you mated the 1mz heads to the 3mz block? or is it quite literally just swap them over?
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Oct 22, 2012 - 6:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '12 From Wrightstown, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 21, 2012 - 6:14 PM)  ^^^^ thats so sexy! thats what im going to do once i get the swap certified. I have a complete 3MZ from a Sienna. i just need to get the VVT 1MZ intake manifold, throttle body, and the computer. how much power are you making by the way? after driving my 3MZ/1MZ hybrid i can tell you that this is so much faster than my dads 2002 5 speed solara. it is also much torquier and faster than my 5S-FE with the turbo system on it. Once i get all the bugs worked out ill be fabricating the supercharger. Oh by the way my cruise control is also working. im so happy about that. I totally didn't catch that you were going to be boosting this until just now, lol. This project just gets better and better! What supercharger and management will you be using? -------------------- 1989 Celica ST Automatic "King Cobra" -- 2005-2006
1994 Celica ST 5-speed "King Cobra II" -- 2011-???? |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 7:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (UVZ164 @ Oct 22, 2012 - 4:27 PM) I've seen your 1MZ teardown thread, but is there one i missed about how you mated the 1mz heads to the 3mz block? or is it quite literally just swap them over? i used this thread for all the information http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=359007 yes the 1MZ heads "basically" bolt to the 3MZ but you have to block off 3 oil passages and restrict 2 of them. its not that difficult to do. QUOTE (PaukST @ Oct 22, 2012 - 4:50 PM) I totally didn't catch that you were going to be boosting this until just now, lol. This project just gets better and better! What supercharger and management will you be using? ill be using a M90 supercharger like what i have on the 2ZZ and a water to air intercooler. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 10:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
ok took some pics
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk0XhQXD1o4...eature=youtu.be This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 22, 2012 - 10:56 PM -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 22, 2012 - 11:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Hey how did you get my car an you painted the wrong color
 Looks an sounds amazing great work smaay I hope my swap is as amazing as yours one day -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235 n |
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Oct 23, 2012 - 9:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 20, '11 From Houston tx Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Quick question Smaay: I have access to a 94 1mz and an 05 1mz w/ vvt. Im trying to keep the cost as minimal as possible. I can get the 94 harness and ecu with the motor but not for the 05 1mz. I would have to source those separately. Which would you recommend? And would the obd1-2 thing be that big of a deal. (I have a 94 gt) Keep in mind I would be sending the wiring out to be sorted by someone else. Thanks in advance
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Oct 23, 2012 - 9:31 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
If your wanting to keep the cost down the 94 that already has everything will be cheaper in the long run
Obd1-2 isn't a bigdeal if you send the harness out My celica is a 94 also but my swap is from a 98 But call your local scrap yards if you can get the harness an ecu an keep the price of eather engine close to the same the 05 will have more power -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235 n |
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Oct 23, 2012 - 10:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (Redmann813 @ Oct 23, 2012 - 7:20 AM) Quick question Smaay: I have access to a 94 1mz and an 05 1mz w/ vvt. Im trying to keep the cost as minimal as possible. I can get the 94 harness and ecu with the motor but not for the 05 1mz. I would have to source those separately. Which would you recommend? And would the obd1-2 thing be that big of a deal. (I have a 94 gt) Keep in mind I would be sending the wiring out to be sorted by someone else. Thanks in advance it all depends on the cost, if you can source the VVT 1MZ stuff and keep the cost down then go for that. the nice thing about the VVT 1MZ is that its still a throttle cable, not DBW. but if everything is together for the 1MZ non VVT then i suggest getting that. get the part number for the ECU and make sure it has NO immobilizer! if its coming from a 5 speed car then just get that. makes things easier -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 23, 2012 - 11:39 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
what do you figure the 1mz will do on the track?
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Oct 23, 2012 - 2:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 20, '11 From Houston tx Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Oct 23, 2012 - 9:31 AM) If your wanting to keep the cost down the 94 that already has everything will be cheaper in the long run Obd1-2 isn't a bigdeal if you send the harness out My celica is a 94 also but my swap is from a 98 But call your local scrap yards if you can get the harness an ecu an keep the price of eather engine close to the same the 05 will have more power QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 23, 2012 - 10:55 AM) QUOTE (Redmann813 @ Oct 23, 2012 - 7:20 AM) Quick question Smaay: I have access to a 94 1mz and an 05 1mz w/ vvt. Im trying to keep the cost as minimal as possible. I can get the 94 harness and ecu with the motor but not for the 05 1mz. I would have to source those separately. Which would you recommend? And would the obd1-2 thing be that big of a deal. (I have a 94 gt) Keep in mind I would be sending the wiring out to be sorted by someone else. Thanks in advance it all depends on the cost, if you can source the VVT 1MZ stuff and keep the cost down then go for that. the nice thing about the VVT 1MZ is that its still a throttle cable, not DBW. but if everything is together for the 1MZ non VVT then i suggest getting that. get the part number for the ECU and make sure it has NO immobilizer! if its coming from a 5 speed car then just get that. makes things easier Thanks guys and I work at a salvage yard but when they pull motors they cut the harness'. I think Im gonna go with the non vvt because we have an abundance of those but only one vvt. Really excited to get this going but wanna make sure I have everything sorted out before I start since it's my daily. Been missing the v6 powerband since my v6 camry damn that motor is smoooth Side note: sorry for the clutter in your thread This post has been edited by Redmann813: Oct 23, 2012 - 2:10 PM |
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Oct 23, 2012 - 2:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 22, '06 From Columbia, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
looks so great! Such an odd site seeing that in there haha.
i dont really like how it sounds though 
--------------------  1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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Oct 23, 2012 - 6:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
no i dont like the sound either, it sounds like a freaking honda. i need to put a resonator in it
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 23, 2012 - 7:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 22, '06 From Columbia, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
good. im glad you agree. i was afraid you wouldnt love me anymore for being honest
-------------------- 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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Oct 25, 2012 - 10:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
did i mention how FREAKING AWESOME it is to drive this car.
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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