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 Mar 16, 2004 - 10:53 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Oct 23, '03 From ky Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
what size wheel spacers should i get, to get 17x7 wheels as close to the fender as possible. I don't want them to over lap, or cause the wheel to set to far out on the lugs, which i know kinda limits the size avab.
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Mar 16, 2004 - 10:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
most wheel spacer kits give you new bolts to put in for the lugs. There is a way to measure how far out you want. If you do a search online for them you will find plenty of sites that will show you how to measure them. There are also alot of wheel spacers on EBAY, that show you how to do it
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Mar 16, 2004 - 8:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Wheel offset is also important to the calculation. The lower the offset, the smaller the wheel spacer needs to be. I think that the stock wheels use a 38 offset on a 7 inch rim, however I am not sure. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. You can use a wheel offset calculator and do some measuring of clearances on your car to find out how much further you want the wheel to stick out to get your answer.
Here is a wheel offset caculator: Wheel offset calculator Jay. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Mar 16, 2004 - 10:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 23, '03 From ky Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanks for the offset calculator, what i was looking for.
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Mar 17, 2004 - 9:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 10, '03 From oklahoma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
what is the offset of an original celica ST 14" steel wheels?
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Mar 18, 2004 - 5:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 23, '03 From ky Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i am pretty sure stock is something like 38. . . . But i am not 100% sure about that.
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Mar 18, 2004 - 12:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From KC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
get wheels with the correct width and offset you want, and they should be hub-centric type wheels, and not lug-centering. spacers are a bad idea...you usually end up with un-cureable vibrations and poor handling...
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Mar 18, 2004 - 5:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I don't have any personal experience with spacers but I'm going to have to disagree on that point. Numerous people use spacers for auto-x, including John (speedtoe) on this site. Odviously you can't go out and buy a 20 dollar set of spacers, but as long as you get a proper pair (ie H&R) with wheel studs included you shouldn't have any problems. |
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Mar 20, 2004 - 5:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, I've never had a hiccup from mine....but then again, I did pay over $300 for them! And they're german engineered....Dat means dey are goot da?
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Mar 20, 2004 - 6:24 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '02 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I've often wondered whether wheel spacers put additional load on the axles?
I thought it better to go for wider tyres 215/225. May be wheel spacers are a more cost effective solution in the long term!? |
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Mar 21, 2004 - 10:09 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
They put a different bending moment on the spindles, load the bearings differently, and change the position of the 'Dave point' WRT the contact patch. I haven't found this to be a problem with 25mm (1") spacers. I've had them for well over a year and no problems. The steering feels a little different. Its got more feedback, but only at certain slip angles. Overall it feels great, but it would be better just to get the wider wheels with the right offset. The only reason I did spacers was because I was running a class where the wheel size and tire size are limited and I wanted to maximize the track for better handling.
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Mar 21, 2004 - 10:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Wider tires won't do it. Putting a tire on a rim thats too small for it will KILL your handling. The car will feel like crap. Either go with spacers and the correct size tire for the rim, or get larger rims (and the tires to fit them).
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Mar 21, 2004 - 12:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
how big of a spacer can the celica get before needing bolt extensions
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Mar 21, 2004 - 12:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Ive read alot about spacers and offsets because i want my wheels to be totally flush with the body of the car for looks and handling, more importantly...
But could anyone tell me which would protrude out further- a 17x7 wheel with a +30mm offset or a +40mm offset? -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
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Mar 21, 2004 - 9:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It depends on the wheels you're using. You must have the stud go all the way through the nut and it really should protrude at least two theads to be safe. I would guess you won't get much more than a 5mm spacer before needing longer studs.
The 30mm offset will protrude out more. Offset is measured from the center of the wheel to the hub mounting face. To physically measure it you must know the width of the wheel. Then measure from the flange (the inside one, might have to do some math for that) the tire mounts to, to the hub mounting face. Take the second meausrement and subtract half of the first measurement to get the offset. Hope that makes sense...kinda hard to explain without pictures. |
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Mar 21, 2004 - 9:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 23, '03 From ky Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well after getting the z3 fenders put on the front looks almost flush, weird. . . .so now the back sits farther in and looks small compared to the front side, i ordered a set of 25mm spacers from h&r over ebay, hopefully they even things out.
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Mar 21, 2004 - 9:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i just meant with the stock wheels, because if i knew that then i could calculate any other wheel
 ThX tho, 5mm works
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Mar 22, 2004 - 11:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From KC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I had tried them myself years ago, spacers and wheel adaptors. no thanks. I also worked in a parts store for 12 years, saw too many people with problems to recommend them... OK there are now apparently companies making good and bad spacers, the $300 ones may be fine, but anything that just slips over the stock studs or replaces the studs with longer ones and does NOT fit the centering hub securely could cause trouble, Our cars are designed to use the center hub to get the wheel centered,,,not the lug nuts. any spacer or adaptor that doesnt fit securely and is not machined with a new centering ring on the outside could possibly cause problems, for that matter any aftermarket wheels not designed to use the centering hub could be a source of vibration. Those Hubcentric people wouldn't be in business if it WASN'T a problem,,,maybe they could make the add-on centering rings for spacers???? or do the better ones come that way??? |
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Mar 22, 2004 - 11:34 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From North Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have 15mm H&R spacers, and i love them. the stock offset is 50 btw. i deffinately recommend H&R ($200). but don't buy anything cheap.
adam -------------------- MISS THE CELI, BUT...
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Mar 22, 2004 - 7:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '02 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Hubcentric Wheel Spacers - made to order.
Check this out on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2468845501 NOT THE USUAL CRAP! EDIT: I'm now thinking with regards a future project of going with 215 tires with 10-15mm Hubcentric Wheel Spacers. This post has been edited by 3TST: Mar 22, 2004 - 7:59 PM |
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