1MZFE Swap Checklist (With Prices), Looking for feedback Options

[o0black0o]

there is also a JDM 1mzfe contains 286 HP. I did alot of research on the swap there is alot more to consider than what he wrote.

[behindthesmile]

there is also a JDM 1mzfe contains 286 HP. I did alot of research on the swap there is alot more to consider than what he wrote.

that sounds crazy i've considered going for the 1mzfe route when i get the funds... there was a guy who had it installed in his 5th gen so its definitely possible for the 6th gen except no one has done it yet

[JFrost9]

behindthesmile, i think if you have a GT then the motor mounts will line up...Im not sure though. Im still tryin to find a reason why i would want to swap in the 1mzfe over the 3sgte.

[behindthesmile]

behindthesmile, i think if you have a GT then the motor mounts will line up...Im not sure though. Im still tryin to find a reason why i would want to swap in the 1mzfe over the 3sgte.

too bad i have an st... but the real motivation for me is that theres more parts available for the 1m7fe compared to the 3sgte considering i have a 12 yr old car and i plan to keep it for aslong as i can the 1m7fe is a good choice

[Cutrara]

Im still tryin to find a reason why i would want to swap in the 1mzfe over the 3sgte.

~270 HP 1MZ-FZE>200 HP 3S-GTE

"Hey that car is a 4-banger, right?"
"Not this one... (VROOOOM VROOOOM)"

[JFrost9]

well i wasnt including the SC...but i guess you have a valid point. lol.

[cg97]

doc, u have discounts for canadians? ha

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Im still tryin to find a reason why i would want to swap in the 1mzfe over the 3sgte.

~270 HP 1MZ-FZE>200 HP 3S-GTE

"Hey that car is a 4-banger, right?"
"Not this one... (VROOOOM VROOOOM)"

3rd gen 3sgte is 225, you know that. And you can't include the 270 sc, unless you take into account upgrading the turbo on the 3sgte. The 4 banger, and engine sound thing, are the only advantages I see. I think the 3sgte is more of a proven power plant over the 1mzfe. More info too. And it's made for the Celica. But that makes the 1mzfe more original. You what else would be original? A b-series motor in a Celica.

[Dr_Tweak]

Wow, three pages! I'm glad this topic has generated some interest I've always thought that the V6 should be a more common swap. Sure, the 3SGTE is a more sport-type engine, but the 1MZFE would be just great on the street.

I'm planning on moving down to SC for May, but I'll keep everyone updated. Either way I'm going fulltime in the shop soon.

The 4th mount will most likely but custom, but I'll have to try it before I know.

I think the other Camry V6 engines are feasible as well though they will probably present different challenges.

-Doc

[Kwanza26]

I personally wouldn't bother with the older VZ series motors... those things are pretty nightmarish when it comes to the heads and the power output isn't spectacular... so stick with the 1MZ. That's the best reasonably swappable V6. The 3MZ is a viable option also, considering it's the exactly same thing as the 1mz except it's bored out... but it's just a load more expensive...

[elvasoshexai]

er... i'm just wondering... has anyone here actually driven a car with a 1mz-fe? cuz er... my sienna has one and it pulls so damn slow from a start, even with hard accel... i dunno... it makes a weird leaking sound when acceling... so maybe it's just my car

[Kwanza26]

er... i'm just wondering... has anyone here actually driven a car with a 1mz-fe? cuz er... my sienna has one and it pulls so damn slow from a start, even with hard accel... i dunno... it makes a weird leaking sound when acceling... so maybe it's just my car

cause a sienna is like 4000+ pounds

[Drew-887]

Does anyone have any pics of the V6 engine?

[elvasoshexai]

http://www.toyotanation.com/photos/data/50...SC_002_logo.jpg

[HaRv3sTeR]

there is also a JDM 1mzfe contains 286 HP. I did alot of research on the swap there is alot more to consider than what he wrote.

link?

from which model/years is it from?.....and is that without the SC?


This post has been edited by HaRv3sTeR: Feb 21, 2006 - 5:17 PM

[Dr_Tweak]

there is also a JDM 1mzfe contains 286 HP. I did alot of research on the swap there is alot more to consider than what he wrote.

Why don't you enlighten us? That is the purpose of this thread, after all.

[K-ESD]

i'll give you my share

-header, firewall side, needs to be modified to clear the steering rack
-returnless fuel system needs to be either converted to return or the rest of the system need to be converted to returnless (ie reg near tank)
-radiator hoses needs to be rerouted, they are at opposite ends
-wiring, have fun, lol
-OBD1 to OBD2 convertion in some cases, not a big thing
-custom rear mount
-EVAP system needs to be rigged to avoid CELs
-ECU needs to be "tricked" in the likely case you have a AUTO ECU
-Tach's circuit board needs to be modified to read the V6 pulse
-and more

thats all i can think on top of my head

[Clipsetuner]

i'll give you my share

-header, firewall side, needs to be modified to clear the steering rack
-returnless fuel system needs to be either converted to return or the rest of the system need to be converted to returnless (ie reg near tank)
-radiator hoses needs to be rerouted, they are at opposite ends
-wiring, have fun, lol
-OBD1 to OBD2 convertion in some cases, not a big thing
-custom rear mount
-EVAP system needs to be rigged to avoid CELs
-ECU needs to be "tricked" in the likely case you have a AUTO ECU
-Tach's circuit board needs to be modified to read the V6 pulse
-and more

thats all i can think on top of my head

stock header, will just have to have a custom drop down pipe made.
I dont know about yours or others, but mine has a return line on the fuel rails
Radiatior hose's thats a givin, but GT/ST rad might be easyer, I was just gonna wing it with my ST's
-wiring, have fun, lol DOUBLE!
The front motor mount was the one that needs to be made, as I was told by my buddy with mr6
-EVAP system needs to be rigged to avoid CELs, yep
For anyone looking for a engine/harness/ECU hunt for the manual it will make things easyer in the end
I dont know about modding the tach, didnt much care sense I have a Autometer C2 Tach, but im sure its something that needs to be covered.
^
Fuel Pump
LSD
all that other little crap

It is to my understanding that 1mz/3mz dont put out over 230hp stock, but I havent done alot of reserech most people say look into it and read, I was just mainly gonna peice it together, my local shop has done many v6 swaps into mr2's and he told me that he would help me finish it up.

I was gonna look down the line at boosting mine via turbo, but considering I have to find another 6gc now my whole v6 project and all of that is being pushed back, so I wont be able to give anything but my knowledge for now.

I look at it, basicly anyway your gonna go with your celica your gonna be spending a good chunk of change, if you want a proven power house dont bother with this v6, go 3sgte, but the v6 will be something different a new playing feild persay, the SC add on looks rather disapointing, but a custom turbo setup, mabey some nitrous could be rather deadly setup.

now the 5vz would be swap, someone's gotta try it!

DTE

[thatcelicaguy]

i could be wrong but....i believe the solara drag cars us the 1mz....and i also believe a few of those hold tack records.....i dont think that its not a reliable or even a feasable power plant...i just believe it hasnt been done enough for anyone to really know all of the possibilities of the engine....i think as far as price goes ....it might be a little out of the range of most people...but if you can do the work yourself...it might cut the price down somewhat....i know here in town i can pic one of these engines up for like $300-500...which to me is a hell of a lot cheaper...and considering we have a fairly large mr2 group here as well the lsd wont be hard to pick up either....my questions are: what all trannys will bolt up to this engine....and what do the mr2 guys think of this swap...are they satisfied with the results they've gotten from this engine..if so.. it might be worth giving it a shot.

This post has been edited by thatcelicaguy: Feb 22, 2006 - 6:49 PM

[K-ESD]

i'm really hoping the 3MZ (or a late 1mz (04+)) is a possibility, but i can forsee that i will have a hard time finding an engine for a worthy price. The fitment of the 5spd auto is unknown and the ECU might or might not be able to be tricked with a E153, among other things that one would discover when attempting this.

clipstuner, i believe the auto ECU can be tricked, this would make finding the required parts much easier since there are few 5spd 1mz cars.

source Bedell racing

How to I trick an Auto ECU into working?

* Use (10 ohm?) 25 watt resistors pulled to ground to fool the ECU into thinking the solenoids are present. Adrian determined in his V6 Celica that the ECU seems to be the same for Manual/Auto. It is simply a matter of grounding the correct ECU pins (see below), so that resistors may not be necessary.

Using the factory wiring diagrams.
+ You will need to modify the wiring of the Heated A/F Sensors so that they are grounded to the chassis, not Via the ECU, as the ECU uses different ground connections. Some labeled a/t some m/t on the diagrams. Exclude all A/t conections, and make all M/t connections to the ECU.
+ These wires also include the Clutch start switch on the manual, and neutral start switch on the automatic. Effectively, this changes the ECU's logic to that of a Manual transmission set-up.