The V6 Celica is here, sharing my experience Options

[bloodrain]

bra, something went very wrong...

[K-ESD]

bra, something went very wrong...

yeah, my car ate me

[K-ESD]

Iwant to know the pirce of it all vs the 3g, i want to do a swap next year, but now this has me thinking about this swap lol. Man I'll ahve so much research t odo on here lol

That is a question with no answer. My swap (my configuration) cost about $4k cnd in parts, it will go from there as I add more stuff to it. A few hundred dollars were spent where I didn't need it, simply as trial and error.
The reason why there is no exact cost for the swap is simply because there are so many options and so many price variation in parts from junk yard to junk yard. Getting a full motor with all accesories + ECU for one price will cut the total cost by alot. I had to source the power steering pump, alternator, ECU and a whole bunch of stuff seperately which racked up the cost.

Without a doubt, a V6 swap can be done under 2k, at the very basic of it. Start adding stuff like a E153 transmission, newer motor, upgrades and price will double and up.

just wanted to know ur driving impressions on the v6...a lotta people shot me down loooooong time ago about that swap, but anyways just wanted know how it felt and have u pushed the engine really hard yet.

Dr.Tweak asked me the exact same question, lol
here was my reply:

So K-ESD, what are your impressions on the driving aspect?

two words... ----> wheel spin

I need bigger tires !!! (running 195/55/15's right now, good tires that came with rims for cheap)
It's very easy to break traction. I have to be very careful on the throttle.

but on a daily driving aspect, it's the best thing i've ever driven. The acceleration is so smooth, it feels like your getting pulled by a turbine. The Solara transmission shifts very very smoothly, like cutting through butter. It drives just like a brand new car, well after all I do have a motor with 16k kms and a trans with 60k kms. (try to get a 3SGTE localy with that many kms for $750 cnd )

Handling is not affected at all, not that I can notice. From carrying the two motors around, it feels like the 5SFE and the 3MZFE are about the same weight.

When I do gun it, after I get that wheel spin under control, it pulls like crazy (if I don't break loose again). I find myself shifting through gears very fast. The torque is just always there, in 5th gear I stomp on it and it MOVES up fast, no bogging like the 5SFE. It's an amazing engine, as good as in my dreams....maybe even better

also, i get better gas mileage than my 5SFE when babied.

I have to add, I do have a bit of throttle lag, less than 1/4 second of it. It's not a big deal, a little bug I need to fix. It has something to do with the ECU not finding the auto slushbox that it's supose to run. (3MZ only problem)

This post has been edited by K-ESD: Aug 29, 2006 - 9:15 PM

[soulshadow]

hmmmm, the 3mzfe off of the sienna is pretty fast. I know cause my moms got one! Shove it into a lighte car and WHAM! MAD SPEED!

[Punisher]

What bracket did you use in the rear? I also had to space my st185 rear mount up.. I just used 2 washers. I also had to cut the st185 driver side mount too..

Decided to go back to the GT driver side mount... then realized that the mounting holes on the transmission bracket were just to far off and didn't want to screw with it anymore so I put the ST185 goodies back on.. heh.

But ya, just really want to know which rear mount bracket you used.. I ended up using the GT one with a slit bit of modification to it.. I couldn't get the st185 bracket to even look right..

[K-ESD]

What bracket did you use in the rear? I also had to space my st185 rear mount up.. I just used 2 washers. I also had to cut the st185 driver side mount too..

Decided to go back to the GT driver side mount... then realized that the mounting holes on the transmission bracket were just to far off and didn't want to screw with it anymore so I put the ST185 goodies back on.. heh.

But ya, just really want to know which rear mount bracket you used.. I ended up using the GT one with a slit bit of modification to it.. I couldn't get the st185 bracket to even look right..

I used the alltrac rear bracket. In my case it lined up and bolted down with no fuss.

[HaRv3sTeR]

vids!!!

[jess_i_74]

So cool to hear this, K-ESD. Thanks for being a pioneer.

How about the legality of the swap? The engine would conform to US regs and also would be from a newwer car, so is this actually legal?

[K-ESD]

So cool to hear this, K-ESD. Thanks for being a pioneer.

How about the legality of the swap? The engine would conform to US regs and also would be from a newwer car, so is this actually legal?

Thanks

for legality, it's not something I worry about here in Canada

for the states, i can't say for sure but it can very well be legal as far as emissions go, you just need to adapt all the emission systems of the year of the engine. It has been done many times in MR2s, it can be done in celicas.

[toyotatech]

for those of you wanting to try this with the 1mz here ya go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-TOYOTA-A...1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-TOYOTA-H...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Bitter]

looks like those may have been from a floaded/totalled car based on where its coming from.

[toyotatech]

looks like those may have been from a floaded/totalled car based on where its coming from.

could be, i didnt see where they were from.

[K-ESD]

for those of you wanting to try this with the 1mz here ya go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-TOYOTA-A...1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-TOYOTA-H...1QQcmdZViewItem

looks like those may have been from a floaded/totalled car based on where its coming from.

$1600usd!!!!! thats a ridiculous price!!!!!!!!!!
wow, they are trying to catch a really big fish.

I got my 3MZFE for $750cnd ($660usd), it had 16k kms (10k miles), there are more like those almost everywhere, maybe not with that low milegage but still under 50k miles. That should give you an idea of what to pay for.


looking for engines? , try car-part.com

for donor car reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_MZ_engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_VZ_engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_engine


you should also try a quick trip to your local junker to see what they have in stock
whatever you do, don't pay more than a 1000 for an engine. 1000+ is ALOT for a used V6 concidering the high supply of them. If you can get a fully dressed V6 w/ ECU, AC, PS pump, Alternator and some misc parts, then it's worth more.
Shop around, there are thousands of MZs and VZs sitting in junk yards.

[j0e_p3t]

if you ever decide to move to southern california... i would gladly pay you whatever you want to do this swap for me.

[hitcachi]

any videos or sounds clips yet...

[azian_advanced]

congrats K-ESD.. that's one big step for the 6gc community! way to go
i wonder what swap i should go for... hmm

[Bitter]

v6gc.net

[DeathWing]

dyno!

[K-ESD]

about the vids, picts, sound clips, other entertaining material....

Pictures will come shortly, I only got it on the road a couple weeks ago. As for vids, i'm planning on intergrating a webcam to work with my carPC, so it might be a while. This will all get done when I take it off the road for the winter, probly sooner than winter because I want to get alot of stuff done while it's still somewhat warm. Also I need to gather funds to upgrade my exhaust and get some better parts (new hoses, cv boots, lines, etc...)

All this isn't official, it's just a taste. I will work out the bugs, make replica custom parts needed for the swap and make a highly detailed information guide.

[HaRv3sTeR]

about the vids, picts, sound clips, other entertaining material....

Pictures will come shortly, I only got it on the road a couple weeks ago. As for vids, i'm planning on intergrating a webcam to work with my carPC, so it might be a while. This will all get done when I take it off the road for the winter, probly sooner than winter because I want to get alot of stuff done while it's still somewhat warm. Also I need to gather funds to upgrade my exhaust and get some better parts (new hoses, cv boots, lines, etc...)

All this isn't official, it's just a taste. I will work out the bugs, make replica custom parts needed for the swap and make a highly detailed information guide.

hooray for the guide!