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 Jan 29, 2004 - 10:13 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Jan 7, '04 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
1996 GT ST-204 with a 5S-FE
Please, in the name of God someone help me find some headers! Those arospeed jerks dont make them anymore, does anyone know of anywhere else I can get some damn headers?!?!?!!?!?!?!? plz help!!  thnx!
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Jan 29, 2004 - 10:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '03 From Endicott NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
There is no company that makes them. If you want them you'll have to find somebody that will custom make you some.
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Jan 29, 2004 - 1:15 PM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
You need a header(notice how there's no "s"), and I think that you can buy one for a 3S-GE and have it modified to fit. I believe this is what Jared did on his car.
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Jan 29, 2004 - 1:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Coomer....It was a usdm 3sfe.
And Yes you can put one on the 5sfe. I think he had to widen 1 bolt hole. -------------------- Member of Team 5sfTe
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Jan 29, 2004 - 2:15 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying that.
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Jan 29, 2004 - 2:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 25, '03 From Mizzeri Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
On the subject of headers... Does anyone know if the stock header has pre-cats in it, or any kind of emissions crud at all?
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Jan 29, 2004 - 3:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '04 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yikes how embaressing thats the second time i had to be corrected hahaah
okay sorry, "header" do you guys know what header jared got? was it the hks type II racing header?  btw whats his user name on 6gc.net?! thnx! This post has been edited by integra_killer: Jan 29, 2004 - 3:33 PM |
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Jan 29, 2004 - 4:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
HKS doesn't make a header for the 5SFE... as I know. They probably do for the 3SGE though. And yes... the 5SFE and 7AFE exhaust manifolds do have cats built in them... As far as actually getting a header goes... what for? If for increased performance... there are better things to do than spend 2-3 hundred or so dollars for a header... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Jan 29, 2004 - 4:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you're desparate...Try This... Also, this header will bolt-up directly... but the downpipe will most likely need modification...
A header is not gonna add a ton of power (a few horses at most). Typical n/a 4 cylinders these days get excellent exhaust flow with the stock set-up... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 29, 2004 - 4:19 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Jan 29, 2004 - 7:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '04 From bellingham, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
um, as far as i know.... the stock exhaust manifold generally just has an O2 sensor in it, and most aftermarket headers have o2 hook ups either in the header itself or on the downpipe.... an exhaust manifold doesn't have a built in cat.... the cat is after the downpipe......
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Jan 29, 2004 - 10:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It has a cat... or at least mine does... I'll try to post a pic... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Jan 30, 2004 - 12:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
The 5sfe one has one also. So yes they do have built in cats in the exhaust manifold. -------------------- Member of Team 5sfTe
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Jan 30, 2004 - 1:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '04 From bellingham, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
guess that's something they did in the later model cars..... still seems like it would cost them more to build a cat into an exhaust manifold than to have 2 seperate cats like new cars have.....
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Jan 30, 2004 - 1:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 25, '03 From Mizzeri Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ugh. I would like so see a pic if you have one handy. If not, it is enough to know that it has a cat... which means I can't change the dang thing. |
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Jan 30, 2004 - 1:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Ripp mods (the supercharger guys) made a header for their project. someone should contact them and see if they just sell the header.
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Jan 30, 2004 - 2:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
 Here's a picture of the 7AFE exhaust manifold... The entire bottom piece is the cat (the part wrapped in the heat shield)... I believe it's also the case with the 5SFE manifold... Here is a back-side pict... And here is a pict of inside the cat... This is for the California version of the AT200... so others may vary... but in this case... there is a cat in the manifold. This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 30, 2004 - 2:41 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Jan 30, 2004 - 3:02 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My 5S-FE has two holes for the o2 sensor. One PRE CAT and the other POST CAT.
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Feb 1, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have the Pacesetter 3s-fe header from the 4th gen Celicas from Summit racing.
Bout $150 shipped to my door. All u have to do is widen one of the holes to the head stud. DON'T use the pacesetter gaskets. I went and got the Felpro(sp?) metal gaskets. Thats the exhaust mani gasket and the collector gasket. B4 i blew 5 of the paper gaskets with sealent. Changed to the metal and its great. As said there is 2 O2 sensors on the 5s. There is one hole for the o2 on the header. Since it eliminates the cat, u have to either weld a new bung in for the 2nd o2 or just do what i did and splice one o2 sensor into the other. That way u don't get a CEL for not having 2 o2's. -------------------- Jared Harwell
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Feb 2, 2004 - 11:53 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The second o2 sensor has 2 wires while the first o2 sensor has 1. How do you splice the the wires?
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Feb 2, 2004 - 5:46 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '03 From Fresno, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i heard that hotshot proformance is coming out a header for 90-99 celica gt.. but still haven't when they are releasing it out.
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