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post Jul 26, 2006 - 8:57 AM
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Tuesday, July 25th, 4pm to 12am

Engine resealed with new timing belt, ready to go. In the background, the victim waits...

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AHHHH! It's the black Celica of DEATH!!!

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Remember kids, when swapping to a 4AGZE engine, you'll need the backing plate off the 7AFE engine. A new rear main seal is a must too!

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New SPEC clutch installed and the tranny swapped over from the Celica. Yes, I know it's ugly, but around here we make things that go fast, not things that are pretty tongue.gif

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post Jul 26, 2006 - 9:00 AM
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It will be nice to see this swap completed. I have a feeling that, where others have failed, the doctor will prevail. Best of luck.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jul 26, 2006 - 9:51 AM
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mr2 gze or rolla gze?

nvm mr2 gze lol

post Jul 26, 2006 - 10:08 AM
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i agree jay im really excited to see this swap happen
post Jul 26, 2006 - 3:55 PM
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it's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

i'm still pissed about mike and his slapdash wiring, but oh well. smile.gif.

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post Jul 26, 2006 - 4:01 PM
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was it cost efficient? how much hp did the dyno put out?
post Jul 26, 2006 - 4:03 PM
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Jul 26, 2006 - 4:01 PM) [snapback]461467[/snapback]

was it cost efficient? how much hp did the dyno put out?


i don't believe it's been dyno'd yet.


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post Jul 26, 2006 - 4:08 PM
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If they used the newer GZE. those are rated at what? 165?

I should just do that instead of a V6.. All I want is 200-220whp
post Jul 26, 2006 - 4:12 PM
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Jul 26, 2006 - 4:08 PM) [snapback]461474[/snapback]

If they used the newer GZE. those are rated at what? 165?

I should just do that instead of a V6.. All I want is 200-220whp


4AGZE + crank pulley + fuel and air intake mods + exhaust + effecient FMIC + some A/F/etc controller = your goal. and, if all else fails, there is a larger supercharger out there that you can always upgrade to. smile.gif. or, remove the SC, and turbo it. that motor has many directions to go. twin-charging was an option, and still is, but the HKS kit that used to be made is probably nowhere out there anymore (even used). and fabbing your own, you'll have to do insane amounts of research.


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post Jul 26, 2006 - 4:30 PM
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t's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

whats the downside to leaving the 7A tranny?


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post Jul 26, 2006 - 4:40 PM
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QUOTE(hurley97 @ Jul 26, 2006 - 4:30 PM) [snapback]461489[/snapback]

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t's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

whats the downside to leaving the 7A tranny?


It's just not as beefy and able to handle the extra power. plus the axles are about half the diameter. and some of the transmissions out of the AE101 are LSD. only downside is that the driver's side (of mine at least) axle had to be lengthened by about 2 inches.


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post Jul 26, 2006 - 5:04 PM
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lol the motor is looking kinda rusty... lol i wouldnt wana pop the hood with that in my car!

lol but the good thing is that people can look at ur engine and be like whatever, than u can show them what an old engine can do lol


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post Jul 26, 2006 - 5:04 PM
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QUOTE(Mynzeyes @ Jul 26, 2006 - 3:55 PM) [snapback]461464[/snapback]

it's already been completed. both using the better, higher-rated GZE out of the AE101, and using the proper transmission, instead of the 7AFE tranny.

i'm still pissed about mike and his slapdash wiring, but oh well. smile.gif.


running? I must have missed that... Can you point me to a thread?


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jul 26, 2006 - 5:40 PM
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sure are some haters floating around 6gc lately..

btw you wont be able to see most of that with the engine in the bay.. also a painted exhaust heat shield and valve cover would do wonders for that engine.
post Jul 26, 2006 - 5:50 PM
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hmm.. I was thinking more of a rebuild, some head job, 20 over, SC14 s/c (Previa SC) and everythign that you said.. lol

I like the SC more.. better for auto.. unless the turbo spools very quick
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i don't even know if he posted. FAQdaWorld. he keeps everything low key?

and who's the haters? hopefully not me, i'm just stating it's already been done, bc i don't think many people know it has.


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post Jul 26, 2006 - 6:05 PM
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well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions
post Jul 26, 2006 - 6:11 PM
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QUOTE(brianforster @ Jul 26, 2006 - 6:05 PM) [snapback]461552[/snapback]

well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions


well, it wasn't meant to be hateful or w/e. just saying, it's been done, and more "in full". people talk like it's impossible, and tweak is the only one capable. i don't mean any disrespect to anyone, so don't think that. it's all good though. it'll be nice to see another. i think there may be a 2nd somewhere, but i don't know if it ever got finished...


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post Jul 27, 2006 - 12:43 AM
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Is that a MR2 GZE? I didn't know the MR2 came with DLI. I think that is an AE92 GZE.


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post Jul 27, 2006 - 3:22 PM
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QUOTE(brianforster @ Jul 26, 2006 - 11:05 PM) [snapback]461552[/snapback]

well you posted kind of like "its been done and been done better" and that was a bit hating and the people saying the engine is ugly.. im just sayin.. this is a rare swap and we know tweak will do a good job, lets not clutter the thread up with heresay and cosmetic opinions


I'm just going to stop posting my stuff up. Pretty much every thread I've started recently has been hated on.

Answers to questions: My understanding has been that the only car the MAP/DLI version of the 4AGZE came in was the AE101, and this is the MAP/DLI version. I'm pretty sure that the AE92 had only the AFM version.

As for the transmission, the C52 tranny has been used in almost every Corolla swap that I can think of, and it's a very rugged transmission. I've never once heard of a 4AGZE breaking one. Considering the simplicity of swapping it over instead of making the E58 work, it's a very logical choice.

Also I've cleaned the engine up quite a bit and it looks a lot better now.

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