 7agte build diary, my progress so far |
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 Feb 6, 2006 - 3:44 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%)  |
i got this email today
Greetings Nick, Jay and I have been test and tuning your car for the last few days, the power is right on target much and I mean much torque steering due to this kind of power, traction will be an issue. On Friday we did notice a strange idle charactor with a 3in drop in vacume, so we did a leak down and comp check, cyl #4 is giving us some concern, due to the investment and peace of mind we are going to remove the head and have a look, we will not charge for this but we must be sure we are not dealing with issues that could lead to major issues, I will need to have the cam card I gave you, I would like to know where these pistons came from and if they are forged or not. If they are not the quality that we use could we upgrade to some CP's?, we can have them cut to the size of the bore we have now and would just be slip in's, they are proven strong for this kind of power, we are more than willing to provide these at cost, and we would not charge any labor. This car is going to be very strong, we want to be sure its goning to last. If you agree on the piston upgrade, that could be delt with later. Thanks, steve and Jason -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 6, 2006 - 3:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 3, '04 From Yakima, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
ooo man, that looks like bad news... more time out in the shop.
-------------------- the 1/4 doesnt have patience for a ST.... so we make them ST-T's so atleast we'll sound good going slow.
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Feb 6, 2006 - 4:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
aw man....arn't you dealing with upgraded pistons already?
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Feb 6, 2006 - 4:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 6, 2006 - 3:06 PM) [snapback]389729[/snapback] aw man....arn't you dealing with upgraded pistons already? no i was running the OEM MR2 4agze 8.0:1 pistons there coated i cant remember if there forged or not i think they are where is Kwanza he would know i ve seen 4agte with the oem 4agze piston hit 400 horse and have no problems upgrade is the CP custom ones at the shops cost so i'll probably do that -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 6, 2006 - 4:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '04 From Spokane Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Frigging SWEET!!!!!!!!!!
I have to see this when its done! |
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Feb 6, 2006 - 5:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(nik @ Feb 6, 2006 - 9:24 PM) [snapback]389738[/snapback] no i was running the OEM MR2 4agze 8.0:1 pistons there coated i cant remember if there forged or not i think they are where is Kwanza he would know i ve seen 4agte with the oem 4agze piston hit 400 horse and have no problems upgrade is the CP custom ones at the shops cost so i'll probably do that 4AGZE pistons are quite strong... but that depends on how much boost, what sort of efficiency and whatnot. There are varying stories as to whether or not the 4AGZE pistons are forged. In my opinion, and based on my experience... I DON'T believe they are. Why? Cause they hasve casting marks underneath the piston. I'm sure they are ceramic coated and are built very tough... but I don't think they are forged. Forged pistons in a stock engine that must pass all sorts of international emission standards just doesn't seem to pracitical from a business standpoint. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Feb 6, 2006 - 6:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i dont know if this has been asked (or if you want to say), but how much is this costing you so far? around 10grand?
-------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Feb 6, 2006 - 6:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 6, 2006 - 4:37 PM) [snapback]389762[/snapback] QUOTE(nik @ Feb 6, 2006 - 9:24 PM) [snapback]389738[/snapback] no i was running the OEM MR2 4agze 8.0:1 pistons there coated i cant remember if there forged or not i think they are where is Kwanza he would know i ve seen 4agte with the oem 4agze piston hit 400 horse and have no problems upgrade is the CP custom ones at the shops cost so i'll probably do that 4AGZE pistons are quite strong... but that depends on how much boost, what sort of efficiency and whatnot. There are varying stories as to whether or not the 4AGZE pistons are forged. In my opinion, and based on my experience... I DON'T believe they are. Why? Cause they hasve casting marks underneath the piston. I'm sure they are ceramic coated and are built very tough... but I don't think they are forged. Forged pistons in a stock engine that must pass all sorts of international emission standards just doesn't seem to pracitical from a business standpoint. thanks bee damn now gotta pop the head off and throw another set of pistons in there **** thats another few weeks to the pistons and get it done and back up and running QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 6, 2006 - 5:16 PM) [snapback]389774[/snapback] i dont know if this has been asked (or if you want to say), but how much is this costing you so far? around 10grand? alot if you want to know the exact price pm me -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 6, 2006 - 7:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '04 From Quebec city, Quebec, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Personally,
I'll be very suprised if the problem is a piston. If yes , maybe they run to lean on the 4th injector (the lastest on the fuel rail). Do you run an egt (at the right place) to view the temperature ? You can run 15 lbs of boost with the gze pistons for sure .... Good luck. Claude |
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Feb 6, 2006 - 7:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 6, 2006 - 6:12 PM) [snapback]389795[/snapback] Personally, I'll be very suprised if the problem is a piston. If yes , maybe they run to lean on the 4th injector (the lastest on the fuel rail). Do you run an egt (at the right place) to view the temperature ? You can run 15 lbs of boost with the gze pistons for sure .... Good luck. Claude the injectors are 83 lbs an hour all i know is what i posted once they remove the head then they can tell whats going on i have to buy another egt cause the last one got stolen but i think he guned it to check i;ll give them a call tomorrow for more detail goal for boost is 20psi -25psi to get the full potentail out of the turbo on pump gas -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 6, 2006 - 7:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
nik ...the place thats doing your work ...looks and sounds like they know what they are doing. i would upgrade the pistons just like they recomended.
-------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Feb 6, 2006 - 7:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 6, 2006 - 6:33 PM) [snapback]389809[/snapback] nik ...the place thats doing your work ...looks and sounds like they know what they are doing. i would upgrade the pistons just like they recomended. im going to upgrade just to be safe cause of the amount of money i have into this project here is a link to the shops web site http://www.f2uning.com/pages/10/index.htm -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 6, 2006 - 8:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
Goodluck finishing this thing up man
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Feb 6, 2006 - 9:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 10, '05 From Monroe, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
go with the CP pistons i would have done that in the beginning, i dont like having a weak link in a motor like this. Good Luck man! oh and PM me with the cost, im interested. also if you have an invoice can you tell me what its costing for them to t&t the SDS system?
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Feb 6, 2006 - 10:09 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 23, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(nik @ Feb 6, 2006 - 5:27 PM) [snapback]389805[/snapback] goal for boost is 20psi -25psi to get the full potentail out of the turbo on pump gas good luck getting those tires to hook up  im excited for you man. going to be one hell of a car. i sense a future featured ride coming up soon  .
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Feb 7, 2006 - 8:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 7, 2006 - 3:09 AM) [snapback]389887[/snapback] QUOTE(nik @ Feb 6, 2006 - 5:27 PM) [snapback]389805[/snapback] goal for boost is 20psi -25psi to get the full potentail out of the turbo on pump gas good luck getting those tires to hook up im excited for you man. going to be one hell of a car. i sense a future featured ride coming up soon .If this thing is up and running and NOT a featured ride... I will be pissed. lol -------------------- |
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Feb 7, 2006 - 7:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Glad to see you back and hear from you, nik.
totally get those forged pistons, esp. if its not costing you anything. we can all wait here. |
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Feb 8, 2006 - 8:31 AM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
nik,
definetly do the pistons, even if its just for peice of mind. cant wait to see this thing in action!!!! 
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Feb 8, 2006 - 10:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
well i had them ordered but it will probably be anohter month until its up and running again 3-4 week wait on pistons and 2 weeks to reassembly and tune for me to pick it up
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 8, 2006 - 2:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(nik @ Feb 8, 2006 - 9:56 AM) [snapback]390776[/snapback] well i had them ordered but it will probably be anohter month until its up and running again 3-4 week wait on pistons and 2 weeks to reassembly and tune for me to pick it up Are you trying to take my title as "king of the tease post"? j/k Good luck man. - Jay -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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