jdm SIDEMIRROR wiring INFO, attention NEVERSTOP, CTCAT2049 Options

[CelicaZR]

Me and Preator will be attempting to install this tomorrow.
I'll let you all know how it goes.
Hopefully it goes well, if not I'll be back with questions

[CelicaZR]

Well, the install did not go according to plan.
But we've made progress.
We've wired the the control unit and the driver's side mirror.
We sort of stuffed up one of the screw at the bottom of the mirror,
so we've to figure out how to remove that screw.
So does anyone know how to remove a stuffed screw?


We might have found a way around with the relay.
Preator has design a relay for the power folding mirrors.
So I dont have to use a toggle switch like some of you did.
I'll let you all know if this relay thing works, then I'll let preator
explain how he did it.

[rjbibeau]

drill off the head of the screw and use a vise grips to screw it out. then clean hole with a tap or if it still doesn;t come out just drill it out and tap a new hole. i had to do both. ya those screws are lil bastards

[CelicaZR]

Thanks rjbibeau.
That what we actually done
Bad news cant seem to make the relay work.
Has anyone got the wiring diagram of the relay?
So I might be looking at getting a relay from Toyota.
Do they still make them?
I might also need 2 motors as well. I think we've blowned
them

[djr97]

has anybody found out anything new yet?

i have the same problems as you guys ;-) got the jdm mirrors and a controller unit (buttons) and separately bought a relay box (mirror control).

i also have the pink wire on the controller that is supposed to trigger the relay... i found out about the relay wiring (11 pins)... still can't get it to work :-( maybe the relay is broken somehow?!

anyway, i would like to use the one-wire-method (pink wire) because i want to use the tiny little button for folding the mirrors ;-) plus i would like to trigger the folding with a single cable from my remote central locking!!!

so i can not use the diy-relay with a switch but need info on how to make everything work with a single wire!

any help is greatly appreciated :-D

[JoKeRkId613]

Just as I thought, this thread was going to be just as confusing when I received my mirrors in the mail. I received both mirrors and the buttons unit. No relay control box. Can I still use the retract botton on the
"L-R/Retract/Mirror" button unit if i dont have the mirror control relay? That's what I want to do. Please let me know if i need the relay to use the stock retract button. this thread is real confusing.

[CelicaZR]

Joker, it will be pretty hard to make it work without the
relay. Me and my friend found out the hard way.
But I dont think it is impossible. We just need to find
a wiring diagram for it.

[JoKeRkId613]

Thanks. I guess I'll search for the relay control unit. Anyone have wiring diagrams for the JDM sidemirrors and relay??? I can't find it on the BGB on CelicaTech. Those pages show errors. Anyone have them backed up or anything? Thanks.

[praetor]

Well Simon eventually got around to buying the relay for the mirrors and now everything is plugged in and working sweet. Problem was that the version of the control unit that we had (8wire with pink) needs the relay to work correctly. Sure you can do it with a toggle switch, but he wanted it to have the factory look

Movies to show our success -

(quicktime format)

http://www.praet0r.net/pics/foldingmirrors/

[CelicaZR]

Thanks for the help bro
Now I need an alarm system to hook that up to

[djr97]

Well Simon eventually got around to buying the relay for the mirrors and now everything is plugged in and working sweet. Problem was that the version of the control unit that we had (8wire with pink) needs the relay to work correctly. Sure you can do it with a toggle switch, but he wanted it to have the factory look

can you tell me a part number or send me a picture of that relay? i have one from a different toyota, but can't get it to work seem's i will have to order the correct relay box

[elvasoshexai]

i'm gonna try and install these this weekend... got a lot of info from this thread so hope it goes smoothly

[elvasoshexai]

****... 1 of my mirrors got messed! the switch that toggles the retracting in/out inside the mirrors got fried...

and the damn relays i had were the wrong ones... stupid ebay seller ><... didn't want to bother getting 2 new relays so i'm just gonna try to make the mirrors retract out when the car turns on and retract in when the car turns off.. so i can just use the original usdm control unit

This post has been edited by elvasoshexai: Jun 13, 2006 - 12:57 PM

[elvasoshexai]

ok.. wow.. for some magical reason... the mirror still works! finally got it all wired up!

i tried to wire them up so that they would fold in when i turn off the car and fold out when i turn on the car.. but somehow messed up and they fold in when you open the door or a few seconds after you turn off your car (you know how you have a few seconds after you turn off car that you can still close your window)... they still fold out when i turn on car tho...

i ended up not using the oem switch because of the way i wired it (plus i was missing the 2 realys since i had the old mirrors) so i added a switch to disable it during the winter incase of freezing rain or something like that!

damn the mirrors are sweet!

[Daftboy]

Sorry to bring up this post but i have the mirror for the 6g... i have most of it wired up i have the relay and everything i need.. on my control box though I have extra wire blue/yelliow. I have no idea where this goes. My mirrors move up,down.left and right fine but they will not retract or open....any ideas...please help

[trdproven]

okay cool

edit: hurry up! LOL j/k but I do want mine to work also and wanna see if you figure it out.

also want suggestions on how to make it work with the ignition.. like you turn on the car and they fold out and turn off the car and they fold in

Damn this would be sweet as hell.

[Daftboy]

anyone....blue/yellow wire in control unit...where does it go too...

[jdmisme]

anyone....blue/yellow wire in control unit...where does it go too...

I see that you guys have been struggling with this for a while, now. Here is a complete wiring diagram for the older style 94-99 JDM power folding mirrors. Older style meaning the type WITH the single pink wire coming from the control unit/relay (...the switch is the switch, the control unit/relay is the seperate box with the bunch of wires coming from it...just to get the nomenclature straight). #1 pin is ALWAYS UPPER LEFT PIN of coupler when looking at the coupler from the views explained below.

wire color examples:
GREEN = SOLID GREEN WIRE
GREEN/YELLOW = GREEN WIRE WITH YELLOW STRIPE
YELLOW/GREEN = YELLOW WIRE WITH GREEN STRIPE

CONTROL UNIT/RELAY WIRES(looking at it from the back where the wires go INTO the unit with the locking nipple UP).

1-BLUE-- to blue wire on Left Mirror
2-YELLOW--to yellow on Left Mirror
3-BLUE/YELLOW-- +12V acc 'ON'
4-BLUE/RED-- blue/red on Right Mirror
5-RED/YELLOW-- red/yellow on Right Mirror
6-BLUE/WHITE(white)-- blue/white on Right Mirror
7-GREEN/YELLOW-- green/yellow on Right Mirror
8-PINK-- pink on switch
9-WHITE(white)/BLACK-- ground
10-BROWN-- brown on Left Mirror
11-GREEN-- green on Left Mirror

SWITCH WIRES (from same view as relay unit stated above)

1-PINK-- noted above
2-LIME/BLACK-- same color on Right Mirror
3-BROWN/WHITE(white)-- same color on Left Mirror
4-BROWN/YELLOW-- same color on Left Mirror
5-GRAY-- constant +12V
6-LIME-- same color on Right Mirror
7-LIME/RED-- same color on Left Mirror
8-WHITE(white)/BLACK-- +12V acc 'ON'

I am a seller of JDM items. This is the wiring as I used to test the latest set of Celica mirrors that I am selling (or sold, depending on when you see this post) on ebay(ebay seller id JDMISME). As for the new type, I have yet to confirm personally whether or not there is a relay in that particular vehicle. When and if I ever find out, I will let you all know with another wiring diagram.

If you have any questions (or ''huh?? wtf are you talkin' about?" 's) just let me know. I'm human and I may have mis-typed something... Or I'm super human and I never make a mistake...lol! we'll see!

This post has been edited by jdmisme: Nov 21, 2006 - 7:57 AM

[azian_advanced]

so you basically match up the wires on the mirror harness with the relay box... and the control unit. ie. red with red, green/yellow with green/yellow.. i think we know that already..

but anyway, could you also edit the post and add the functions of each wire? like, which one is (+) or (-) for each side (RH or LH mirrors) for each wire?

[jdmisme]

so you basically match up the wires on the mirror harness with the relay box... and the control unit. ie. red with red, green/yellow with green/yellow.. i think we know that already..

but anyway, could you also edit the post and add the functions of each wire? like, which one is (+) or (-) for each side (RH or LH mirrors) for each wire?

The mirror setup that I used to make that wiring diagram are already packaged and awaiting shipping (they're on ebay, right now), but if you were to hook up your mirrors according to that wiring diagram you could easily figure out which wires are negative and which are positive for functions such as the power folding/retracting and mirror controls (up, down, left, right). I don't concern myself with which one is positive or negative for each particular function (meaning I don't check each individual wire for positive/negative), I just make sure that the end buyer is able to wire them up without any problems.