 Big Brakes and 7th gens, We got big news! The party boat is here! |
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 Jan 6, 2004 - 12:21 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I was at Toyota Heaven (local toyota only salvage) the other day and discovered something interesting.......
Toyota Heaven happened to have a 2001 Celica GT in their yard. For the hell of it I did some snooping around and comparing. My first thought was that maybe we could use their spindles so that we could get their brakes but alas, no dice there. The closer I looked the more amazed I was....the caliper mountings are exactly the same. 7th gen brakes will interchange with the 6th gen perfectly. All 2001+ celicas came with 10.8" vented rotors. A decent junkyard upgrade for us! I'll be ordering some reman calipers and slotted rotors soon. Whats even more exciting is that the above means that any 7th gen big brake kit will work on the 6th gen. This includes the Brembo GT system and several others. So there you have it. Mod away. |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:31 AM
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So if went ahead and ordered the Brembo GT Brake Kit, it would replace both front rotors and back drums with new rotors?
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nice looks like someone will be getting some big breakes..
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No no no....sorry....I wasn't totally clear. The front calipers will bolt right up. The rears I wasn't able to check because the one they had was a GT (drum brakes). I don't think they're the same. The Brembo GT will work on the front tho.
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 17, '03 From Ontario, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Brembo big brakes on the front, ST drums on the back...
sounds like a bad dream |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
let me fix that dream for you a little .. Brembo big brakes on the front and GT disk break swap on the back.. -------------------- |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Haha, you gotta do the disk conversion in the back!!!. To be honest the Brembos are big time overkill for anything but a dedicated track car (unless you just want the look). I'm just going with the stock 7th gen brakes, hawk pads, and slotted rotors. It'll be killer.
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good looking out bro. I have a question... are the ST and GT front calipers the same? The reason why I'm asking is because I thought that the GT rotors were bigger. Do you know the difference b/w the ST and GT in terms of the front braking system? Thanks buddy. EDIT: LOL... now I understand why you guys were saying Brembo in the front and drums in the rear... I didn't realize that the BBK only covers the front. I didn't realize that they didn't have anything for the rear. So are all BBK's like this? Because I just went to my sponsors site, Rotora (www.rotora.com), and noticed that their system is for the front only as well. Anyway, if you guys want something cheaper... Rotora offers BBK's at competetive prices (GT BBK's for $1395). If you deal with them, please be sure to reference me... Ray from Illmatic. This post has been edited by kuya1284: Jan 6, 2004 - 12:35 PM |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 12:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The 6th gen GT and ST calipers are not the same, but they have the same mountings....i.e. the spindles are the same. The rotors are larger on the GT, but not a lot. Pads will not interchange.
As far as the 7th gens go, the 2000 model GT had 10" rotors and the GTS had 10.8". From 2001 up they all have 10.8" rotors. I'd make sure you get stuff off a 2001+. Some BBKs have a rear setup, but the rears for a 7th gen likely wouldn't work on the 6gc. Just as a point of reference for those of you interested in performance...we use stock BMW rear brakes one of our world challenge cars. The rears really aren't stressed that much. The stock disks are more than adaquate. |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 1:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Once again... thank you for the useful info. I can now save $1400 by not going with Brembo. 
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Jan 6, 2004 - 1:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good god man where are you buying your Brembo stuff?? thats outragously priced Thanks SpedToe169.. I have been askin this question for a while and now I finally got an answer BTW the GT front rotor is 11.5 - 12 inches.. cant remember which but its right in there --------------------  99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 1:30 PM
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That's actually how much Brembo Big Brake Kits usually cost... Pro quality stuff there... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 1:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, a real brake system is pricey. Performance Friction is working on new monobloc calipers and an entirely new braking system for the world challenge BMWs. Its going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $12k for all 4 corners. That doesn't count spares...so in reality its $12k/car +$12k in spares. Thats $48k in brakes for a 3 car team....oh and that doesn't count pads....+$400/weekend.....or brake fluid thats $12 a bottle.....$36/weekend.....
So, who wants to help sponsor us?
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Jan 6, 2004 - 6:51 PM
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honestly spedtoe, kuya, mac, and 97sccelica are some genuine people. youve taught me so much and ive never seen you guys bullsh!t unless u know what ur sayin. mad props, you add some great knowledge to this community. |
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Jan 6, 2004 - 7:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks dude! That means a lot. Made my day! 
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Jan 6, 2004 - 8:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I agree with Blkgt. Thanks to everyone who knows their stuff who can help us noobies out with our questions without giving us bogus information. Im very grateful
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Jan 6, 2004 - 11:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Franklin,Tn Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah thanks guys.
Bryan |
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Jan 7, 2004 - 1:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
same here.. put a smile on my face -------------------- |
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Jan 7, 2004 - 2:05 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Don't thank me... I know I've been sorta a dick in the recent past... but I guess it was outta frustration for not having my car. But yallz know that I got luv for ya... I'll help out in anyway that I can with ANYTHING... just don't ask about my sideskirts... lol
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Jan 7, 2004 - 2:32 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Hehehehehe -Bryan- -------------------- Member of Team 5sfTe
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