 Big Brakes and 7th gens, We got big news! The party boat is here! |
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 Jan 7, 2004 - 9:31 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Apr 6, '03 From Gainesville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%)  |
Just to clear something up, do the rotors from a 7th gen fit or do the 7th gen calipers fit the rotors of a celica?
Whoever answers this question, can someone tell me if brembo slotted rotors for a celica would accomodate 7th gen calipers? Thanks in advance Jordan |
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Jan 7, 2004 - 9:53 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The whole assembly transfers....if you have 7th gen rotors, you have to have 7th gen calipers. If you have OEM size slotted brembo rotors, you have to have 7th gen calipers.
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Jan 14, 2004 - 2:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '03 From Italy - Como Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My front Brake
 
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Jan 19, 2004 - 2:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 10, '03 From Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Aint the GT4 (st205) brakes a lot better then the 7th gen brakes ? I have a GT (3sge) and i want to swap my brakes with the GT4 ones. I think it will fit.
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Jan 19, 2004 - 2:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
From what I've heard they do not work. This has been covered a bunch of times.
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Jan 19, 2004 - 4:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'll second that... and elaborate... The St205 uses the Super Strut front suspension system, which is completely different from the Mac Phearson strut system... the system specifically on the ST205 uses a large 4 pot caliper, opposed to the smaller 2 pot calipers on the MacPhearson Celicas. The only way to make it work, will be to swap over the the entire Super Strut front suspension (which may include front axles as well...) and then the entire front brake assmeblies. Also NOTE: the Super Strut system is unique only to Toyota, and was only offered in a few vehicles that were availiable only to Japan and Europe. Parts would be a nightmare, expecially if something goes out. Also, American shops will have a nightmare working on this system... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Jan 23, 2004 - 5:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 22, '03 From Raceland, LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
anyone know where i can look for the st rear drum to disk conversion equip - i've check the junkyards around here for a junked gt but no avail
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Jan 23, 2004 - 6:48 PM
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Some models of the ST202(What he has) were equipped with the Super Strut suspensions system as well. Does anyone happen to have detailed information on how exactly Toyota's Super Strut suspension works? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Jan 27, 2004 - 1:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
*editted* left in the thread to keep the message: bryan, jay is very unhappy, and seeing as how you're posting on the boards, he can see you, so please contact him regarding the injectors, as he feels he's been scammed.  . jay: keep the bashing to AIM or another source other than 6gc.net, as they will not be tolerated on the board. you can effectively get a message across without bashing someone about their sexual preference and the like...but if you must resort to it, please do it privately. thanks. -John- This post has been edited by Mynzeyes: Jan 27, 2004 - 2:13 AM -------------------- [img]http://photos-081.facebook.com/n6/081/n15913038_30266081_3342.jpg[/img]
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Feb 4, 2004 - 8:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 29, '03 From lynn,ma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
just to make things clear for me =p
If i was to get a 7th Gen GT Rotor, I would been to savage/buy a 7th Gen Caliper too right. And it will bolt on directly? without any mod? And anyone know if the 7th Gen GT rotor/caliper would be better then the 6th Gen GT rotor/caliper?? for example: is it bigger, more gripping power, etc? and is it really worth it. Just want to know ^_~ thanks |
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Feb 5, 2004 - 2:43 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Must've skipped over this thread when it happened. This is the best news I've heard in a long time. I'll do the rear conversion first, then get my suspension(looking at either Tein SS or JIC), then get 4 piston calipers for the front. By then it will be time for a new engine(takes me forever to save any amount of money between car parts, computer parts, guitar strings/pickups/amp tubes, PS2 games, credit card bill...).
ed: Just checked car-parts.com. Both calipers with mildly used rotors(10-20k, decent enough to had turned and use for a while) can be had for as little as $200. This post has been edited by aaronc222: Feb 5, 2004 - 2:47 AM |
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Mar 20, 2004 - 11:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Has anyone done the 7th gen front brake conversion yet? Spedtoe? I am looking for confirmation before I shell out the cash.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Mar 21, 2004 - 10:05 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You have the confirmation....They fit. I had them right up against each other in the junkyard. I'm not really sure how much better they are. They're a little bigger, but not much. The real ticket would be those rotors with some other 'real' caliper. The stock type ones with one piston flex waaay too much to be very good.
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Mar 21, 2004 - 8:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm dumb
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Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Mar 21, 2004 - 10:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 5, '03 From Grapevine, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Toyota Heaven all the way! That was my first experience at a salvage yard, went there just the other day. The guy running it was kinda rude to me as I came in (mostly because I was really confused about exactly what I was suppposed to do, and couldn't explain the dash pieces I needed), but after looking around and discovering some eight-odd 6gc's, I was ecstatic. They had just got one in at the front from the looks of things too, still had the headlights lol.. the others were just mangled.
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Apr 23, 2004 - 12:44 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Ok here are some questions? You said the caliper mounts are the same. I take it you mean the space between the 2 mounting bolts? Right? If the disc is bigger then the 6th gens, the distance from the caliper to the disc is going to be off on the 6th gen unless you make some spacers if you use the 7th gens discs. I dont want to confuse anybody here, but the mounts are going to be higher up for the 7th gens because of the bigger discs. That dont mean you can't bolt up 7th gens aftermarket calipers to the 6th gens mounts. Anybody know what I mean?
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Apr 23, 2004 - 2:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '02 From Longmont, CO Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
What he was saying, is that you can put the 7th gen rotor on the 6th gen hub. Then mount the 7th gen caliper in the exact spot the 6th gen caliper was mounted. Its a direct swap. The rotor would be larger but you are using the 7th gen mount and caliper as well so there wouldn't be any problems.
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Apr 24, 2004 - 1:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I dont understand what you mean by "your using the 7th gen mount" Are you talking about the torque plate the caliper mounts on? So let me know if I got this right,
(1) The 7th gen torque plate mounts to the 6th gen brake assy (2) The 7th gen calipers mount to the 7th gen torque plates (3) the 7th gen rotor mounts right in to the hub My problem with the set-up, and Im trying to be a a-hole and honestly I have not been able to take a personal look st the brakes yet due to time restraints and fixing a bunch of window/electrical problems with this celica I just bought(I love it though). But back to the subject the 6th gen has smaller rotors, so the 6th gen caliper is mounted down closer to the rotor. If you put a bigger rotor(7th gen) your going to hit the 6th gen caliper. Now i dont know if the 7th gen caliper has the necessary room built into it or a different torque plate. I personally would like to do this swap because Im a typically late and hard braker. So do I got it right yet...please help if I dont! 
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Apr 27, 2004 - 2:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I have a question also, if you ordered, say the brembo big brake kit, would you need any other pieces off of a 7th gen, because the BBK comes with the pistons and rotors right?
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Apr 27, 2004 - 7:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok, let me clear this up. If you get the 7th gen rotors, you must use the 7th gen calipers (and caliper hangars, what you're calling torque plates i guess). You CANNOT use the 7th gen rotors with the 6th gen calipers.
Correct. You would not need any other parts from a 7th gen. The parts that the Brembo kit (the gran turismo kit) comes with are sufficient to mount to the 6th gen spindles. |
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