Manual to Power Windows/Locks Conversion, REALLY CLOSE NOW! Need help, see pg 5 Options

[GriffGirl]

I will be undertaking my manual to power windows and locks conversion soon! yay! So in preparation for it, if anyone has a wild hair and is willing to take some pictures of their power setup for me, I would very much appreciate it. Here's what I need:

- pix of behind the door panel so I can see where the rail, motor and lock actuator bolt on
- pix of how the wiring harness is run along that same inside part of the door, up to where the rubber thingie goes into the panel by the door hinge
- pix or description of where the harness comes out after run into the above mentioned panel
- if possible, pix of where the other end of the wiring harness connects to. (back of fuse box under kickpanel?) If pix are too difficult, a description of where this thing goes would be great!
- pix of the door lock relay. I know it's somewhere under the dash, down by the gas pedal. That's all I know. Same goes - if pix are too difficult, a description of what this plugs into.

I'm visually oriented, so please use "landmarks" in any descriptions, and colors, i.e. "next to the gas pedal, above the hump and near the white connector" or whatever.

Thanks so much! I'll follow up with a how-to w/photos when I do the conversion.

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Feb 26, 2010 - 2:28 AM

[njccmd2002]

hope this one is good.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

Here's what I need:

- pix

Okay. I'll probably be taking my driver's door apart next weekend. You'll have to work out the mirror image though as it is a UK car.

how the wiring harness is run along that same inside part of the door, up to where the rubber thingie goes into the panel by the door hinge

It basically just runs along near the bottom. There are a couple of clips to keep it in place. I'll circle them with red pixels for you.

where the harness comes out after run into the above mentioned panel

The door loom is a single loom that provides wires for the courtesy light, window motors, remote locking, speakers and door mirror. For the driver's door there are 8 connectors in the door and two connectors behind the kick panel. For the passenger door there are 7 connectors in the door and two behind the passengers' kick panel. Given Toyota's liking for having many different looms for the same generation, I suspect you'll need to swap out the door looms.

The loom comes through a white rectangular plastic grommet/panel protector and plugs into the body loom very close by (about 6" away). As mentioned above, the loom is terminated in two white plugs.

the door lock relay

It is directly above your right knee when sitting in the driver's seat. Black or charcoal grey plastic box possibly with a bright orange connector. Says "Door Control" on it. On UK cars, directly above the driver's left knee . If you put your hand under the trim, you can probably feel it with ease.

hope this one is good.

Yea the purple and grey wires aren't standard. Mod for puddle lights?

[GriffGirl]

I can't see behind the plastic but it's a start!

What are puddle lights?

I have the loom and the relay. I just don't know where to plug the relay in. Or the connectors behind the kick panel. I'll look around down there and see if I can find something that looks like it's just waiting for that relay.

Any pix you can get this weekend would be greatly appreciated. I'll just reverse it in photoshop and voila! USDM!

[njccmd2002]

I can't see behind the plastic but it's a start!

What are puddle lights?

sorry those wires are additions i made to have another light in the pocket...

[D-Man]

Griff, I'll try to grab you some pics, I'll be doing a "test speaker fit" & installing some Dyno this weekend. I dont have the plastic, so i'll get you a few shots before it'd deadened. That way nobody has to remove their existing plastic, B/C it's a PITA to get back on (and stick).

[Stu37363]

did a walkthrough on changing the regulator, maybe that will help you

Changing power window regulator

[GriffGirl]

^ I read and bookmarked that thread. It's excellent information, thank you for bringing that to my attention! I forgot all about that door skin business, I remember previous cars I've had having it, but mine actually does not have it on either side. I guess that was part of the corner-cutting of the ST. It's alright, I remember it being a colossal PITA anyway.

So basically I'm left with this:
- Door lock actuator: where does it go?
- Door lock relay: I nosed around for it a bit last night, couldn't find where it plugs in. Pix anyone?
- where do the various connectors plug in for a power source?

Thanks again to everyone, I really appreciate your help!

[S2CELLY]

Hope these PICs help.

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[GriffGirl]

Those are totally helpful - at this point, I don't think there are really any pix that WON'T help! Thanks for posting that, much appreciated.

Still need to know where the relay goes, the actuator (the little electric part that makes your locks un/lock) and where the harness plugs in at the end for a power source.

[brk34]

Here are two more pics not that great but I hope you can use them.

[njccmd2002]

i wired my jdm mirrors today, see if this helps!!!

[BloodyStupidDave...]

The above pic from njccmd2002 shows the door wiring loom entering the picture from the top. Just out of shot is where the loom passes into the body of the car through first the rubber grommet and then through the back of the rectangular white plastic loom protector grommet. The two sockets shown are the termination of the door wiring loom. Then the body wiring loom plugs into those. The picture is for the driver's side but the setup is almost identical for passenger side.

Unfortunately, my car is still at the garage having its transmission worked on so no pictures from me this weekend. Hopefully I'll have some next weekend if you still need them.

[njccmd2002]

The above pic from njccmd2002 shows the door wiring loom entering the picture from the top. Just out of shot is where the loom passes into the body of the car through first the rubber grommet and then through the back of the rectangular white plastic loom protector grommet. The two sockets shown are the termination of the door wiring loom. Then the body wiring loom plugs into those. The picture is for the driver's side but the setup is almost identical for passenger side.

Unfortunately, my car is still at the garage having its transmission worked on so no pictures from me this weekend. Hopefully I'll have some next weekend if you still need them.

sorry, should have put explanations

[GriffGirl]

These pictures are great! They'll make a lot more sense to me too once I get all my stuff taken apart and can compare. One question - what's the thing that looks like a relay that says Denso on it? I'm assuming that IS a relay. Is it the door lock relay? I sure hope so, because if it's some type of relay for the power windows, then I'm missing it.

Edit: I forgot to say thank you! Thank you! Keep any pix coming; the more the better. I'm planning to rip everything apart next weekend and get into this! I CAN'T WAIT!!!! If I can leave a little early one day this week, I'm doin' it then (as long as it's not raining!)

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Jun 16, 2008 - 12:04 PM

[njccmd2002]

really dont know what that relay is.... il try looking up the part no

[BloodyStupidDave...]

really dont know what that relay is.... il try looking up the part no

I assumed it was something to do with the folding mirrors you have got. I haven't seen anything like that on the various UK and JDM Celicas I have worked on although it does appear to be part of the door loom.

[GriffGirl]

He customized the relay for those mirrors though, so it can't be for the mirrors. Hmm. Wait - he has a convertible. I bet it has something to do with that. Maybe the motor relay for the top to go up and down.

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

autoloc has some good kits.

[GriffGirl]

Okay, I'm undertaking this project this weekend. I have the DS door panel off and I've discerned which motor goes to which side based on the positioning of the window rail.

Question - do I need to remove the inside of the door (the metal part) in order to remove/replace the existing window track and mount the new one w/its motor? If so, HOW? Which bolts need to unbolt in order to do this? I've figured out which 3 bolts hold in the existing track. Will I be able to unbolt those and pull the window off the track w/out removing the inside of the door? It appears that the thread about changing the power window regulator indicates that I don't need to do that. (but maybe I do, to remove the existing window crank?)

I'm a little lost here, hoping someone can help by morning.

One last thing - where the heck does the door lock actuator go inside the door? I can't quite make sense of which rod connects to which part of the lock, and where it all bolts up.

Thanks!!!!!

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Jun 21, 2008 - 4:32 PM